turtle28 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Do I even need to bring up Andre Johnson, the 1st round pick OT from Penn State in 96 that Casserly drafted and never played a down for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: Yes. He didn't luck into it. Casserly played it perfectly. Most GMs would've traded him for peanuts. Ours certainly would've. And then would've thrown in an extra 2nd rounder for good measure And yet, he's QB'ed a SB winning team. We're looking at hindsight here my man. Nope. But if that guy had gone on and cemented the position for us for years to come, I'd have paid it. Remember, we were a botched snao from the NFCC game with that "backup" Not at all. He had a large part to do with the mess we were in. True Free Agency caught us and nailed us and he didn't react quickly enough. But again, he had righted the ship and we were on the right path. Then Snyder comes in and fires him and keeps Norv. Yeah, Casserly = Ernie in the mid to late 90s. Wonderful, Brad Johnson won a super bowl for the Bucs while we lost 3 draft picks Is that supposed to make me feel better? We could’ve drafted a qb at some point to develop with any of those three 1st round picks he traded away instead of trading for 3 draft picks for a qb. Ah well, it’s whatever we’re not going to change it but imo Casserly is overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiphoon Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, turtle28 said: Yeah, Casserly = Ernie in the mid to late 90s. Wonderful, Brad Johnson won a super bowl for the Bucs while we lost 3 draft picks. Is that supposed to make me feel better? Brad got us to a whisker length of the NFCC game. And as you said, its not his fault that Brad didn't stay. And again, you don't like Champ Bailey and Lavar Arrington? We got them and the entire Saints draft in 1999 because of Casserly. Quote Ah well, it’s whatever we’re not going to change it but imo Casserly is overrated. I disagree that he is. I think he's a decent GM that can be great at times. Certainly not the best GM I've ever seen. But he's one of the better ones. And yes, we probably should get back to the OP's topic, yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Thaiphoon said: Brad got us to a whisker length of the NFCC game. And as you said, its not his fault that Brad didn't stay. And again, you don't like Champ Bailey and Lavar Arrington? We got them and the entire Saints draft in 1999 because of Casserly. I disagree that he is. I think he's a decent GM that can be great at times. Certainly not the best GM I've ever seen. But he's one of the better ones. And yes, we probably should get back to the OP's topic, yes? Yes, he was the Ernie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnote Posted May 1, 2018 Author Share Posted May 1, 2018 Confirming @ProFootballTalk report about Bruce Allen's interest in returning to the Raiders. The interest, by the way, is mutual. Not saying it will happen. Just saying possibility is more than just rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 On 4/28/2018 at 10:50 PM, turtle28 said: Since the Super Bowl victory, Yea I’ll never forgive him for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slappy Mc Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 56 minutes ago, mike23md said: Confirming @ProFootballTalk report about Bruce Allen's interest in returning to the Raiders. The interest, by the way, is mutual. Not saying it will happen. Just saying possibility is more than just rumor. Yes!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 hour ago, mike23md said: Confirming @ProFootballTalk report about Bruce Allen's interest in returning to the Raiders. The interest, by the way, is mutual. Not saying it will happen. Just saying possibility is more than just rumor. Say it does happen and Bruce goes to Oakland. Anyone have any early candidates to replace him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A TRAIN 89 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, bigdog44 said: Say it does happen and Bruce goes to Oakland. Anyone have any early candidates to replace him? Apparently Dan Snyder loves Eric Schaffer. He’s been rumored to be a target of the NFL office in some sort of executive role. My guess is that if Bruce Allen were to head west, they’d elevate Schaffer to keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdog44 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 1 minute ago, A TRAIN 89 said: Apparently Dan Snyder loves Eric Schaffer. He’s been rumored to be a target of the NFL office in some sort of executive role. My guess is that if Bruce Allen were to head west, they’d elevate Schaffer to keep him around. Isn’t he more of a capologist than a scout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A TRAIN 89 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, bigdog44 said: Isn’t he more of a capologist than a scout? Yes, but the same can be said about Bruce Allen. He is less of a personnel guy and more involved in the business. My guess is they’ll keep Doug Williams/Kyle Smith/Alex Santos as the personnel guys in charge of the roster along with Jay Gruden and Eric Schaffer to round out the decision making brain trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Draper Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 This tells me: - the stadium deal is done and expect an announcement before next season begins - Allen getting out before he is fired as that’s what politicians do - poor raiders. Their draft was terrible. Giving Gruden a 10 year deal might have been foolish. How many good coaches have we seen implode when they exercise authority over personnel decisions as well? - the nfl is the most incestious business- it’s about who you know more so than accomplishments - - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 7 hours ago, bigdog44 said: Yea I’ll never forgive him for that Obviously I love him for that, but it doesn’t just absolve him of responsibility as being the first GM who sent the Redskins down the path of being a mediocre franchise ever since and going from the good to great franchise it had been from Lombardi until the 91-92 Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Doc Draper said: This tells me: - the stadium deal is done and expect an announcement before next season begins - Allen getting out before he is fired as that’s what politicians do - poor raiders. Their draft was terrible. Giving Gruden a 10 year deal might have been foolish. How many good coaches have we seen implode when they exercise authority over personnel decisions as well? - the nfl is the most incestious business- it’s about who you know more so than accomplishments - - What? First of all, McKenzie does the work on the draft picks but Gruden is involved but McKenzie does the scouting work. I think the raiders had a great draft. They need a future starting LT because of Penn’s age and they got one with Miller. They got and interior DL in round 2 who fits their scheme perfectly in Hall. They got an OL to develop in round 3 who has a lot of talent but needs development with Parker. They got Arden Key and Nelson who both will be major contributors. Key is a steal in round 4 as long as he keeps his head on straight. Maurice Hurst will be a starter or a 3rd down nickel pass rush specialist. Victor and Ateman as their last two picks were extremely solid! Victor was pegged as a mid round talent before his knee injury and he played a little out of shape last year because of it. Ateman is a big strong athletic WR, he’s not a speedster but out fights Dbs to catch a lot of 50/50 balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slateman Posted May 1, 2018 Share Posted May 1, 2018 What a terrible, terrible loss this would be to this organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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