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2 hours ago, LinderFournette said:

yes.  Cam is still imo a rt playing lt.  Cam robinson isnt anything special. 

I don't think he's anything special either.  But two Cam Robinsons?  You've at least got a serviceable LT and probably an above average RT out of the deal.

 

I mean, if you really distrust/dislike Cam at LT that much...shouldn't most of your Mocks have a bonafide LT guy at 7?

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1 hour ago, Tugboat said:

I don't think he's anything special either.  But two Cam Robinsons?  You've at least got a serviceable LT and probably an above average RT out of the deal.

 

I mean, if you really distrust/dislike Cam at LT that much...shouldn't most of your Mocks have a bonafide LT guy at 7?

theres no true Bonafide cant miss LT prospect available besides that qb is Need 1.  only way to get a LT is by getting multiple 1st or by some luck a LT drops to us in round 2.  im not extremely worried about LT but its definitely an upgradeable position just like pretty much every position on our offense. 

if anything i would pick andre dillard to be our LT but im unsure where i peg him outside of late 1. dont get him falling much in seems but he would be an idealistic fit at the LT position. 

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37 minutes ago, LinderFournette said:

theres no true Bonafide cant miss LT prospect available besides that qb is Need 1.  only way to get a LT is by getting multiple 1st or by some luck a LT drops to us in round 2.  im not extremely worried about LT but its definitely an upgradeable position just like pretty much every position on our offense. 

if anything i would pick andre dillard to be our LT but im unsure where i peg him outside of late 1. dont get him falling much in seems but he would be an idealistic fit at the LT position. 

Dillard hype is way out of control imo.

 

He might be Lane Johnson...but he also might be...one of a long string of athletic LT prospects who don't have the play strength to hold up in the NFL, and never really get there.

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6 hours ago, Tugboat said:

Dillard hype is way out of control imo.

 

He might be Lane Johnson...but he also might be...one of a long string of athletic LT prospects who don't have the play strength to hold up in the NFL, and never really get there.

i prefer the comp to Duane Brown. im expecting him to go in the 20-30 range.  u can teach a guy how to get stronger. 

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7: R1P7 QB KYLER MURRAY OKLAHOMA Starting QB

38: R2P6 WR D.K. METCALF MISSISSIPPI Number 1 wr

69: R3P5 C DALTON RISNER KANSAS STATE Potential Starting RG/RT(plug him at whatever spot is needed. 

94: R3P30 TE ISAAC NAUTA GEORGIA possible starting TE

109: R4P7 OT TYTUS HOWARD ALABAMA STATE Potential starting RT/Swing tackle

180: R6P5 RB RODNEY ANDERSON OKLAHOMA backup RB

238: R7P22 TE TOMMY SWEENEY BOSTON COLLEGE Backup TE. 

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7: R1P7 QB DWAYNE HASKINS OHIO STATE Starting QB

38: R2P6 TE NOAH FANT IOWA Starting TE

69: R3P5 C ELGTON JENKINS MISSISSIPPI STATE Starting RG

94: R3P30 WR JJ ARCEGA-WHITESIDE STANFORD Potential starting wr(redzone specialist)

109: R4P7 OT OLI UDOH ELON Potential starting RT

180: R6P5 RB JUSTICE HILL OKLAHOMA STATE Explosive COP RB

238: R7P22 RB TONY POLLARD MEMPHIS WR/RB hybrid who is a good KR. 

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this based off a matt miller big board. assume we sign someone credible to be our qb for atleast a year. Haskins went to the giants as i didnt attempt ntrade ups as im not paying for premium.  i would pick murray but until he decides if hes gonna play football or baseball im not touching him till late round 1 at the earliest. 

 

7: R1P7 G CODY FORD OKLAHOMA he could be a RT or a RG but based on later selections i project him as our Starting RG.  might not be the best positional value but its arguebley our biggest weakspot on our OL. i dont like jonah williams and i feel hes much more of a RT/G then a left tackle guy. 

38: R2P6 WR DK METCALF OLE MISS Starting number 1 WR

69: R3P5 OT DAVID EDWARDS WISCONSIN Starting RT

94: R3P30 QB TYREE JACKSON BUFFALO my 3rd favorite qb. i like him cuz he kinda reminds me of Josh Allen of last year and people dont seem to like jackson as much. a late 3rd to gamble on a potential starting qb is fine with me. 

109: R4P7 RB RODNEY ANDERSON OKLAHOMA a high end backup RB. should be gone by end of round 2 if he had 0 medical redflags. 

180: R6P5 TE DREW SAMPLE WASHINGTON a solid unspectacular TE that coughlin should love. 

238: R7P22 TE DAWSON KNOX OLE MISS dont know if hes really gonna be available here but he was so i would gamble with him to double down on finding a potential starting te. 

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You guys see this article on ESPN about 32 "Bold" offseason predictions for each team?

The predicted both the Jaguars and Giants would draft Haskins....the only bold thing about that is we'd have to share him

Such a joke organization for a while now

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16 hours ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said:

You guys see this article on ESPN about 32 "Bold" offseason predictions for each team?

The predicted both the Jaguars and Giants would draft Haskins....the only bold thing about that is we'd have to share him

Such a joke organization for a while now

Do they think he's "more of a runner than a passer" too?  xD xD xD

 

It's kinda funny...everyone under the sun seems to be mocking Haskins to either Jaguars or Giants.  It certainly makes sense, and probably ends up panning out one way or another for one of them.  But it'd be pretty funny to see him go to someone else completely off the radar and mock-ruining.  Just hard to see who else is really going to be in the market to move up ahead of Jags/Giants to get him at this point...and actually has the draft capital to beat them out.

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On 08/02/2019 at 12:07 PM, LinderFournette said:

this based off a matt miller big board. assume we sign someone credible to be our qb for atleast a year. Haskins went to the giants as i didnt attempt ntrade ups as im not paying for premium.  i would pick murray but until he decides if hes gonna play football or baseball im not touching him till late round 1 at the earliest. 

 

7: R1P7 G CODY FORD OKLAHOMA he could be a RT or a RG but based on later selections i project him as our Starting RG.  might not be the best positional value but its arguebley our biggest weakspot on our OL. i dont like jonah williams and i feel hes much more of a RT/G then a left tackle guy. 

38: R2P6 WR DK METCALF OLE MISS Starting number 1 WR

69: R3P5 OT DAVID EDWARDS WISCONSIN Starting RT

94: R3P30 QB TYREE JACKSON BUFFALO my 3rd favorite qb. i like him cuz he kinda reminds me of Josh Allen of last year and people dont seem to like jackson as much. a late 3rd to gamble on a potential starting qb is fine with me. 

109: R4P7 RB RODNEY ANDERSON OKLAHOMA a high end backup RB. should be gone by end of round 2 if he had 0 medical redflags. 

180: R6P5 TE DREW SAMPLE WASHINGTON a solid unspectacular TE that coughlin should love. 

238: R7P22 TE DAWSON KNOX OLE MISS dont know if hes really gonna be available here but he was so i would gamble with him to double down on finding a potential starting te. 

 

I like the general structure of this, and some of the players.

Still think i'd probably flip Ford and Metcalf on where i'd value them, but if you end up with both anyway...that's good stuff.

Edwards i'm still not so sold on.  He's coming out of that Wisconsin OLine factory so that's a bit of a plus for him, but i don't find him impressive.  For where he often seems to be discussed value-wise at least.  3rd round though, that's a reasonable shot to take and depth/competition of guys for that RT gig wouldn't be bad at all.  I hate spelling his name and he's strictly an Interior projection, but his linemate Benzschawel is the guy who consistently stands out more to me in that unit though.

 

I like the idea of a QB somewhere around there if we're getting a Veteran FA/Trade starter.  Just don't really like Jackson that much at all, and as i've mentioned before...still don't see anything more than a few superficial similarities to Josh Allen.  Very much strikes me as a Lynch/Osweiler "wow so tall" sort of project.  At some point, it's worth taking a shot and trying to stash as a 3rd QB to develop...but 3rd round, i think there will probably still be at least a few QBs i like a fair bit more.

 

Love the last 3 picks though.  Wouldn't even bat an eye at going TE back-to-back there, especially given their fairly different skillsets.  Sample seems close to plug 'n play, especially for a late round pick TE.  Whereas Knox has a lot more upside as a "weapon" but will probably need some real time to be anything more than a specialist.  Both guys who should probably be able to find ST roles to help stick around too, which would be a real coup getting value/position/talent/ST utility to all line up like that with picks that late.

And Rodney Anderson has homerun pick type upside at that point.  Might never amount to anything, but for a 4th round pick...if the health holds up and he hasn't lost his ability through injury, that's a potential "total package" starting caliber RB.  Vision, patience, elusiveness, size, decent power, receiving ability.  The whole deal.  Worth it, unless the medicals are absolutely dire.  One of those guys who is almost impossible to evaluate well as a fan though, because on talent and tape...he's got a strong argument as the best back in the draft imo.  But i have no idea what the medicals look like.

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On 01/02/2019 at 8:30 PM, LinderFournette said:

i prefer the comp to Duane Brown. im expecting him to go in the 20-30 range.  u can teach a guy how to get stronger. 

Sometimes.  Other times, getting a guy playing significantly "stronger" never really quite pans out.  It's not always as simple as just, "get thee to a weight room".  There's stuff to like there, but there's a lot of gamble to it too.

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7: R1P7 TE T.J. HOCKENSON IOWA Starting TE

38: R2P6 RB JOSH JACOBS ALABAMA felt like he was bpa and i dont trust fournette to stay healthy. has 3 down capabilities and has low usage

69: R3P5 G CHRIS LINDSTROM BOSTON COLLEGE Starting RG

94: R3P30 QB WILL GRIER WVU QB depth. might be a starter but more then likely a good backup QB

109: R4P7 WR LIL'JORDAN HUMPHRY TEXAS Big bodied WR to fill a role

180: R6P5 OT KALEB MCGARY WASHINGTON RT competitiomn

238: R7P22 S LUKAS DENIS BOSTON COLLEGE Safety depth. might be a potential starting FS

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51 minutes ago, LinderFournette said:

7: R1P7 TE T.J. HOCKENSON IOWA Starting TE

38: R2P6 RB JOSH JACOBS ALABAMA felt like he was bpa and i dont trust fournette to stay healthy. has 3 down capabilities and has low usage

69: R3P5 G CHRIS LINDSTROM BOSTON COLLEGE Starting RG

94: R3P30 QB WILL GRIER WVU QB depth. might be a starter but more then likely a good backup QB

109: R4P7 WR LIL'JORDAN HUMPHRY TEXAS Big bodied WR to fill a role

180: R6P5 OT KALEB MCGARY WASHINGTON RT competitiomn

238: R7P22 S LUKAS DENIS BOSTON COLLEGE Safety depth. might be a potential starting FS

Holy smokes, McGary in the 6th round would be absolute robbery.  xD

That and Lindstrom plugging in at C, Linder moving back to RG and McGary plugging right in at RT...we'd have one heck of an OLine.

 

Maybe i'm a bit out there, but i think i actually prefer Harris, the other 'Bama back to Jacobs.  There's a stigma out there that Jacobs is this ultra-dynamic big play threat or something...when the stuff i've seen actually has Harris landing a significantly higher "explosive run %" behind that exact same OLine and everything.  And Harris is also pretty rock solid all around, maybe even more well-rounded.  Feel like Harris is almost getting knocked for just being too solid all-around.  Jacobs is still also a good RB prospect though.

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6 hours ago, Tugboat said:

Holy smokes, McGary in the 6th round would be absolute robbery.  xD

That and Lindstrom plugging in at C, Linder moving back to RG and McGary plugging right in at RT...we'd have one heck of an OLine.

 

Maybe i'm a bit out there, but i think i actually prefer Harris, the other 'Bama back to Jacobs.  There's a stigma out there that Jacobs is this ultra-dynamic big play threat or something...when the stuff i've seen actually has Harris landing a significantly higher "explosive run %" behind that exact same OLine and everything.  And Harris is also pretty rock solid all around, maybe even more well-rounded.  Feel like Harris is almost getting knocked for just being too solid all-around.  Jacobs is still also a good RB prospect though.

i think Lindstorm at RG and linder at c is the best way to roll it out there.  i legit dont know why their big board had him so low. 

i picked jacobs because he has good vision, good pass catching ability, and is a hell of a pass pro-guy so essentially would replace yeldon on 3rd downs but hes not crazy explosive. 

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2 hours ago, LinderFournette said:

i think Lindstorm at RG and linder at c is the best way to roll it out there.  i legit dont know why their big board had him so low. 

i picked jacobs because he has good vision, good pass catching ability, and is a hell of a pass pro-guy so essentially would replace yeldon on 3rd downs but hes not crazy explosive. 

Could be.  Would have to sort that out in camp, but which of Linder/Lindstrom at C/RG is a good problem to have either way.

I mean, i'm probably a bit higher than some people on McGary, but 6th round is legitimately baffling.  :S

 

With Jacobs, i do think he'd be a more than adequate replacement for Yeldon.  I still just don't really know what exactly seems to set him so far apart from Harris for a lot of people.  Other than DJ's thing that vaulted Jacobs straight into the spotlight.  Like Harris is also has good vision, pass catching ability, and seems stout in pass protection.  A bit higher mileage maybe?  But idk.  Maybe Harris wasn't even available in that mock for all i know.

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