JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, iPwn said: They’re worst in the league at no gain or worse plays. But that’s not necessarily all on the the 5 players on the line.. But they have a great RB in Shady. So who’s fault is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 19 minutes ago, iPwn said: Who hurt you? Where do i begin But seriously if you watch some of these replays you see he has space to stiff arm and run but he just tries to go through tackles. I love the mentality but i want the production Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 21 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: But they have a great RB in Shady. So who’s fault is it Tyrod’s average time to throw is 3.01 seconds. Only Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson took longer. Last year, his was 3.13, the only player longer than 2.9. Comparatively, even with as much running as he does, Blake spends 2.73 seconds behind the LOS per pass. Shady spends 2.95 seconds behind the LOS per rush. It’s the 10th longest among every RB in football. Comparatively, Leonard Fournette spends 2.58 behind the LOS, the second shortest (proof he needs to slow down and process more, if we’re being honest). Players averaging nearly a full three seconds behind the LOS is going to lead to to a lot of negative and no-gain plays, even if the OL is good. If your “how good is their OL?” question is really a different way of saying “is their offense going to allow our front four to make big time impact plays?” the answer is that their team makeup seems to suggest that we should. If your question is actually about the talent on the offensive line, various metrics seem to suggest they’re a pretty good unit, but have trouble holding up when players spend a lot of time in the backfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Make note of #2. Then note we’re 8.5 point favorites this week. Revenge could be in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeEvans Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 1 hour ago, iPwn said: Tyrod’s average time to throw is 3.01 seconds. Only Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson took longer. Last year, his was 3.13, the only player longer than 2.9. Comparatively, even with as much running as he does, Blake spends 2.73 seconds behind the LOS per pass. Shady spends 2.95 seconds behind the LOS per rush. It’s the 10th longest among every RB in football. Comparatively, Leonard Fournette spends 2.58 behind the LOS, the second shortest (proof he needs to slow down and process more, if we’re being honest). Players averaging nearly a full three seconds behind the LOS is going to lead to to a lot of negative and no-gain plays, even if the OL is good. If your “how good is their OL?” question is really a different way of saying “is their offense going to allow our front four to make big time impact plays?” the answer is that their team makeup seems to suggest that we should. If your question is actually about the talent on the offensive line, various metrics seem to suggest they’re a pretty good unit, but have trouble holding up when players spend a lot of time in the backfield. Wow. This is a pretty incredible post and has a lot of information about my team that I didn't know. Our line hasn't played as well as last season but they're still pretty good. Our left side is definitely our strong side, Incognito and our rookie LT Dion Dawkins have had very strong seasons. We're missing Corey Glenn who missed almost all of the season. The only game were we had a really bad game was against the Jets on TNF, I would say its quite possible your defensive front is good enough to give us some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 2 hours ago, iPwn said: Tyrod’s average time to throw is 3.01 seconds. Only Russell Wilson and Deshaun Watson took longer. Last year, his was 3.13, the only player longer than 2.9. Comparatively, even with as much running as he does, Blake spends 2.73 seconds behind the LOS per pass. Shady spends 2.95 seconds behind the LOS per rush. It’s the 10th longest among every RB in football. Comparatively, Leonard Fournette spends 2.58 behind the LOS, the second shortest (proof he needs to slow down and process more, if we’re being honest). Players averaging nearly a full three seconds behind the LOS is going to lead to to a lot of negative and no-gain plays, even if the OL is good. If your “how good is their OL?” question is really a different way of saying “is their offense going to allow our front four to make big time impact plays?” the answer is that their team makeup seems to suggest that we should. If your question is actually about the talent on the offensive line, various metrics seem to suggest they’re a pretty good unit, but have trouble holding up when players spend a lot of time in the backfield. Just hope we play our DBs up close so Tyrod doesn't have a throw to make in the first 2 seconds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, JaguarCrazy2832 said: Just hope we play our DBs up close so Tyrod doesn't have a throw to make in the first 2 seconds They would be really stupid not to. Watson and Wilson hold the ball that long, and their average attempted air yards (that is, how far they attempt to throw the ball, even on incompletions) is 11.3 and 10.1. Tyrod’s is 8.7. He’s not aggressive with the ball, even on incompletions. So they’re not likely going to have “lucky” deep plays that can turn the game either. Play tight and make him take a long time to try to throw short. Then disrupt his timing with the pass rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Also, keeping the DBs close helps when Shady attempts to bounce around in the backfield. No reason to not play our bread and butter defense this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 6 minutes ago, iPwn said: They would be really stupid not to. Watson and Wilson hold the ball that long, and their average attempted air yards (that is, how far they attempt to throw the ball, even on incompletions) is 11.3 and 10.1. Tyrod’s is 8.7. He’s not aggressive with the ball, even on incompletions. So they’re not likely going to have “lucky” deep plays that can turn the game either. Play tight and make him take a long time to try to throw short. Then disrupt his timing with the pass rush. We agree but sometimes we just play so far off for no reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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