Rockice_8

Obviously decline. Doesn't mean he doesn't have a long term future here. The talent is undeniable.

Pretty much this. Given we are tight to the cap make sense to get everything else done then see how much we can allocate to Qs cap hit this year. Not worried given how valuable he is. It'll get done.

I'm trying to think about if I would rather give up #43 or a 2024 1st and I think I'd give up the 1st next year. The value is slight more for the 2024 1st I would guess but not much where I wouldn't offer it up. GB gets their 1st and we keep three top 45 picks this year. Win win for both teams if you ask me although not sure why GB would defer to 2024 but it seems they might want to do that.

Many of the OTs can play OG especially a guy like Jones. I'm all for a high impact guy at 13 but it's not a C or a ILB there. More like Nolan Smith, JSN, Jones, Sko, Murphy at 13 Trade down and look at Branch, Kancey, Mayer, Washington

I agree. I think maybe we add Woods in there as well and draft a OL at 13. Assuming one 2nd goes for A-Rod I think the other could go a variety of ways (TE, WR, S, ILB, C). Lots of talent on the board at those spots in round 2.

I guess but then we are thin again at OT which is counter productive. I hope he's good collecting a pay check on the bench but who knows with these egos. The best thing would be for the rookie to be a stud day 1 and Brown do some swing tackle stuff for us. Again not sure he'll want to do that. My point was when you draft a guy at 13 it's not for a backup role so it's a problem if Brown wants to play. The other option is RG if Tomlinson struggles move AVT back to the left and slot #13 in at RG. Tomlinson is cuttable after this year so if he doesn't get back to average guard play than we should bench him. Brown, AVT, Jones, #13, Becton Having that flexibility to play OG or OT could get #13 enough snaps since it's very unlikely all of the OL is the same week 1 as it is week 17. I love me some JSN but I think a guy with positional flexibility like Jones makes the most sense since he can play OG or OT. If any OT or OG goes down he is plug and play. AVT can play multiple positions as can Becton LT or RT so we can shuffle if a guy or two goes down for a short period of time. As old as Brown is he's still an average LT when healthy. I think his below average play was the shoulder more so than a natural decline. I still think he can play at a starting level so it's not just removing him for poor play like it could be for Tomlinson. It would be a switch just because of age and draft status which I don't think Saleh would do. As much as I want to see JSN and Wilson paired together for the next 10 years going OL is the smart play and JD is a smart man.

My concern is if we draft OT at 13, where does he play? Do we bench Brown? Not great to have #13 just sitting. I guess if Tomlinson struggles they can bench him but not sure they will bench Brown for a rookie. Ideally the rookie is great and Brown is good playing a reserve roll but if everyone is healthy #13 might not see the field. Good problem to have but a problem none the less. Everyone being healthy seems laughable after what happened last year though.

Got it, you gathered from a few frustrating post game comments when Zach was sailing balls over his head, the offense couldn't get anything going, and we were on a losing streak that all he cares about is getting the ball.

Jets weren't sniffing anywhere near $15M guaranteed. Didn't want him anyway so I'm good.

I mean look at it from a GB perspective. Maybe a #43 and a conditional 2 next year is the best offer the Jets are willing to go. Do you take it now when your fan base is expecting a 1st plus or do you say hey JD do me a favor and hold off until closer to the draft so I can control the narrative and say I tried to get the most I could out of you? Again is it likely probably not but I think they are probably back and forth between a 1st next year or a conditional pick with protections for the Jets in case of retirement. eventually though I think GB will cave because they want picks this year to help Love succeed.

Way to explain your comment or show any sort of proof that's all he cares about. Good talk.

If you're an NFL WR and you want the ball is like saying grass is green. What WR doesn't want the ball? Saying that's all he cares about is a pretty bold statement without any evidence to support that claim. Is he making it a locker room issue, do his teammates care? Honest question since you seem so knowledgeable on the topic.

Someone asked that question about why would they keep it secret for weeks and nobody had a great answer. Most said about dead money but that post draft which GB doesn't want to do. The answer is simple though and it's for GB to save face as best they can. You accept a poor deal now and GB fans will be livid. You wait until near the draft and can spin it that you held out as long as you could but wanted 2023 picks to help Love and this was the best deal available. Of course the real reason is that GB is holding out hope NYJ cave and slightly up their offer and none of that is true.

Yeah wanted no part of OBJ, I preferred to see if Rodgers can elevated a guy like Davis who at least will contribute in the run game. Plenty to work with if we keep Davis and Breece gets back to form.

It's April predraft, still a long way to go before the roster is set at OL. He only cares about getting the ball? Says who? If you are suggesting his visual frustration with balls sailing over his head, 2' behind him, or at his feet by Zach who wouldn't be? RB room is fine if we can get decent OL play. Running game will easily be better with stable OL and Rodgers. Don't need to waste a high pick on a RB or add a washed Zeke. If you think a later rounder makes a difference I don't. Most seasons do end in disappoint for most fans not rooting for KC. If you are suggesting a crash and burn scenario than I disagree.