NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, Jeremy408 said: You can't rationalize with someone who 1. Presents out of context stats(some that aren't even accurate) 10 minutes ago, NYRaider said: In 2019 Zay Jones: vs Lions (91% of snaps): 3 receptions, 21 yards, 1 TD vs Chargers (67% of snaps): 1 reception, 10 yards vs Bengals (71% of snaps): 3 receptions, 25 yards vs Jets (90% of snaps): 2 receptions, 5 yards vs Chiefs (69% of snaps): 2 receptions, 14 yards vs Titans (84% of snaps): 1 reception, 5 yards vs Jaguars (67% of snaps): 1 reception, 5 yards vs Chargers (52% of snaps): 3 receptions, 14 yards vs Broncos (82% of snaps): 2 receptions 21 yards In 2020 Zay Jones: vs Bills (89% of snaps): 4 receptions, 32 yards A 10 game sample size with Carr, seems like we have a pattern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Look, I know you're grasping for straws, but you claimed 100%. I said I'd be willing to settle for 75%. But 67, 71, 69, and 67 are all below that. Try again. Hunter Renfrow this season in 7 games has played: 55%, 44%, 52%, 67%, 75%, 57%, 55%. So Zay played more over that 7 game stretch I just mentioned... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Nope. There's extreme highs in snap % and a huge disparity with one being as low as 51%, indicating he made a couple of full spot starts after a mid season trade and was otherwise used as a 3rd/4th WR. You can't find a rational pattern with that type of schizophrenic usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) @ronjon1990 I forgot one 6. Probably never played football at any real competitive level other than turkey bowl or maybe flag Edited November 6, 2021 by Jeremy408 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Hunter Renfrow this season in 7 games has played: 55%, 44%, 52%, 67%, 75%, 57%, 55%. So Zay played more over that 7 game stretch I just mentioned... #notwhatIasked Also, Renfrow drew more targets by like 300% than Jones did. So that's an empty stat line with zero context, as usual Edited November 6, 2021 by ronjon1990 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, ronjon1990 said: #notwhatIasked 8. Tries to change the subject to make a point theres a formula Edited November 6, 2021 by Jeremy408 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: 8. Tries to change the subject to make a point theres a formula Now THAT'S a pattern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: Nope. There's extreme highs in snap % and a huge disparity with one being as low as 51%, indicating he made a couple of full spot starts after a mid season trade and was otherwise used as a 3rd/4th WR. You can't find a rational pattern with that type of schizophrenic usage. Zay Jones in 2019: 91%, 67%, 71%, 90%, 69%, 84%, 67%, 52%, 82% This season... Henry Ruggs: 65%, 67%, 58%, 81%, 84%, 66%, 71% Hunter Renfrow: 55%, 44%, 52%, 67%, 75%, 57%, 55% Bryan Edwards: 66%, 74%, 76%, 89%, 76%, 77%, 89% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Also, Renfrow drew more targets by like 300% than Jones did. Zay Jones with the Raiders... 2019: 461 snaps played, 27 targets 2020: 289 snaps played, 20 targets 2021: 100 snaps played, 7 targets Why aren't we targeting him when he does play if he can be this secret beast that we could've unleashed? Especially in 2019/2020 when our WR's struggled Edited November 6, 2021 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jeremy408 said: @ronjon1990 if forgot one 6. Probably never played football at any real competitive level other than turkey bowl or maybe flag You guys are trying to argue that a player who literally has never produced for us will/can with zero reasoning as to why you believe it, lol. Carr doesn't even try to throw the ball to him when he has played... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronjon1990 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Zay Jones in 2019: 91%, 67%, 71%, 90%, 69%, 84%, 67%, 52%, 82% This season... Henry Ruggs: 65%, 67%, 58%, 81%, 84%, 66%, 71% Hunter Renfrow: 55%, 44%, 52%, 67%, 75%, 57%, 55% Bryan Edwards: 66%, 74%, 76%, 89%, 76%, 77%, 89% #stillnotwhatIasked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, ronjon1990 said: Now THAT'S a pattern You guys are probably right, Zay Jones is a legit starting WR who can produce 700 yards and 8 TD per season. Greg Olson was just keeping him hidden away for this exact opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy408 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Here are the overall facts concerning this season: Zay Jones has been targeted 7 times and has 6 catches and 115 yards and 1 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 6, 2021 Author Share Posted November 6, 2021 Just now, ronjon1990 said: #stillnotwhatIasked You're right, Zay Jones is a beast and Carr is a franchise QB. It will be a disgrace if they don't produce against one of the worst teams in the NFL this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted November 7, 2021 Author Share Posted November 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Jeremy408 said: Here are the overall facts concerning this season: Zay Jones has been targeted 7 times and has 6 catches and 115 yards and 1 TD So he should get around 50-55 snaps this weekend, time to produce like a #2 WR as you said he can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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