Rainmaker90 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Forge said: I don't think he's going to be in the top 6. I don't know how they are going to put him in over toffoli and mercer on the right (nevermind that Timo and bratt have also spent more time on the right). I'm not even sure holtz will make the team, tbh. If they are just going to intermingle the top 9 like crazy, the palat / Hughes / holtz line was very good in the preseason. I'd be curious to see more of that I can’t see him not making the team. If they were that down on him he probably would be in SJ right now. im really hoping we have to continuity in the top 6 this year. Jack and Nico should have one constant running mate . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: I can’t see him not making the team. If they were that down on him he probably would be in SJ right now. That assuming San Jose would want him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Forge said: That assuming San Jose would want him I don’t think it’s wise to want a low ceiling guy over a high ceiling guy when you’re re-building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Rainmaker90 said: I don’t think it’s wise to want a low ceiling guy over a high ceiling guy when you’re re-building. Mookie is definitely not a low ceiling guy. San Jose is also stronger at forward in their prospect pool than they are defensemen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, Forge said: Mookie is definitely not a low ceiling guy. San Jose is also stronger at forward in their prospect pool than they are defensemen I was talking more on Zetterlund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Rainmaker90 said: I was talking more on Zetterlund. Zetterlund is a different component to that deal compared to the primary prospect return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, Forge said: Zetterlund is a different component to that deal compared to the primary prospect return I’m sure they wanted Holtz over Zetterlund. And if we were done with him , he woulda been apart of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: I’m sure they wanted Holtz over Zetterlund. And if we were done with him , he woulda been apart of it They were never going to get holtz and Mookie. They were going to have to decide between those two. We were never going to overpay by that extent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Forge said: They were never going to get holtz and Mookie. They were going to have to decide between those two. We were never going to overpay by that extent Which would say they still value him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: Which would say they still value him Or that San Jose preferred mookie? Also, not making the roster doesn't mean they don't value, it's a faulty premise from the start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 Just now, Forge said: Or that San Jose preferred mookie? Also, not making the roster doesn't mean they don't value, it's a faulty premise from the start If he doesn’t make the roster , I wouldn’t have any confidence in him ever being a guy that we’d want to play. He’d have trade value though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 20, 2023 Share Posted July 20, 2023 50 minutes ago, Rainmaker90 said: If he doesn’t make the roster , I wouldn’t have any confidence in him ever being a guy that we’d want to play. He’d have trade value though Yeah, if he doesn't make the team this year, I'd say he's probably worth a second round pick. There's a very good comp in Liass Andersson who was #7 overall as well in 2017. He couldn't make the rangers in his D+4 season and they traded him for a second. If you hold him longer, the value craters even worse (see olli juolevi as pick 5 in 2016). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1993 - Niklas Sundstrom (8) 1998 - Manny Malholtra (7) 1999 - Pavel Brendl (4) 1999 - Jamie Lundmark (9) 2001 - Dan Blackburn (10) 2004 - Al Montoya (6) 2010 - Dylan McIlrath (10) 2017 - Lias Andersson (7) 2018 - Vitali Kravtsov (9) 2019 - Kaapo Kakko (2) 2020 - Alexis Lafreniere (1) Rangers top 10 picks the last 30 years. Not great, Bob lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Forge said: 1993 - Niklas Sundstrom (8) 1998 - Manny Malholtra (7) 1999 - Pavel Brendl (4) 1999 - Jamie Lundmark (9) 2001 - Dan Blackburn (10) 2004 - Al Montoya (6) 2010 - Dylan McIlrath (10) 2017 - Lias Andersson (7) 2018 - Vitali Kravtsov (9) 2019 - Kaapo Kakko (2) 2020 - Alexis Lafreniere (1) Rangers top 10 picks the last 30 years. Not great, Bob lol 1996 - Lance Ward (10) 2011 - Adam Larsson (4) 2015 - Pavel Zacha (6) 2017 - Nico Hischier (1) 2019 - Jack Hughes (1) 2020 - Alexander Holtz (7) 2021 - Luke Hughes (2) 2022 - Simon Nemec (2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainmaker90 Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 What do you think the odds of adding Hellubuyck as a rental and what kinda package would you offer The Jets just for him as a rental? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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