NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:12 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:12 PM 4 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Top to bottom this has to be the least talented offensive roster we’ve had in a long time. At full strength? White / Mattison Adams / Meyers / Tucker Bowers / Mayer I remember the days of Fargas / Schillens / JLH / Louis Murphy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted Monday at 06:13 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:13 PM 5 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Top to bottom this has to be the least talented offensive roster we’ve had in a long time. Maybe now with all the injuries, but QB goes a long way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted Monday at 06:19 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:19 PM 3 hours ago, big_palooka said: AP is toast. Was a bad hire to start, looking worse every week. Team has zero identity and are spiraling. He just stands on the sideline looking lost. He adds nothing to the team. He's suppose to be a motivator and the team looks completely disinterested. They play sloppy and undisciplined football. 3 blowout losses now, 2 at "home" it's a mess. He's one and done. He has no clue what to do right now. He can't coach. It's all up to his coordinators and the defense has regressed and the offense was dead on arrival with Getsy. How many guys on defense have 1 year contracts or need contract extensions going into their final year next season? Telesco hasn’t given no extension to anyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted Monday at 06:20 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 06:20 PM 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: At full strength? White / Mattison Adams / Meyers / Tucker Bowers / Mayer I remember the days of Fargas / Schillens / JLH / Louis Murphy I loved fargas still mad we wasted that pick on dmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:22 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:22 PM 2 minutes ago, bucksavage1 said: How many guys on defense have 1 year contracts or need contract extensions going into their final year next season? Telesco hasn’t given no extension to anyone Thank god he didn't, they've all looked mid outside of Spillane. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucksavage1 Posted Monday at 06:23 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:23 PM 13 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Top to bottom this has to be the least talented offensive roster we’ve had in a long time. Roster building been awful. Nothing but downgrades on offense. Defense full of guys on last year on deals or need extensions going into a lame duck season too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:25 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:25 PM 1 minute ago, bucksavage1 said: Roster building been awful. Nothing but downgrades on offense. Defense full of guys on last year on deals or need extensions going into a lame duck season too. You guys told me Minshew was an upgrade though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCOUGHMAN Posted Monday at 06:25 PM Author Share Posted Monday at 06:25 PM 1 minute ago, bucksavage1 said: Roster building been awful. Nothing but downgrades on offense. Defense full of guys on last year on deals or need extensions going into a lame duck season too. Yea I literally don’t know what we’re doing with the roster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:28 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:28 PM 2 minutes ago, NCOUGHMAN said: Yea I literally don’t know what we’re doing with the roster Roster won 8 games last year Kept the defense together and paid Wilkins Kept the offensive core together, drafted two OL early, added a generational talent at TE, and a vet QB that almost took Colts to the playoffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted Monday at 06:37 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:37 PM 11 minutes ago, NYRaider said: You guys told me Minshew was an upgrade though. Minshew was an upgrade over Jimmy... unfortunately, literally anyone else in the nfl would be an upgrade over Jimmy. You cant let your jimmy glasses blind you man, he sucked. Minshew, while also bad, was legit a tier above Jimmy lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:42 PM 2 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: Minshew was an upgrade over Jimmy... unfortunately, literally anyone else in the nfl would be an upgrade over Jimmy. You cant let your jimmy glasses blind you man, he sucked. Minshew, while also bad, was legit a tier above Jimmy lol Jimmy (6 starts | 3-3): 1,205 yards (200.8) | 7 TD | 9 INT | 65% comp | 7.1 YPA Minshew (5 starts | 2-3): 1,014 yards (202.8) | 4 TD | 5 INT | 70% comp | 7.2 YPA Was Minshew an upgrade over AOC? We won 8 games with three mid QBs last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted Monday at 06:54 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:54 PM 11 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Jimmy (6 starts | 3-3): 1,205 yards (200.8) | 7 TD | 9 INT | 65% comp | 7.1 YPA Minshew (5 starts | 2-3): 1,014 yards (202.8) | 4 TD | 5 INT | 70% comp | 7.2 YPA Was Minshew an upgrade over AOC? We won 8 games with three mid QBs last year. things have changed though, different schemes, different recievers, different oline etc etc. I am just judging QB play... Jimmy couldnt throw the ball more than 10 yards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 06:55 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:55 PM Just now, BackinBlack said: things have changed though, different schemes, different recievers, different oline etc etc. I am just judging QB play... Jimmy couldnt throw the ball more than 10 yards. They were both terrible, Minshew slightly less terrible, but still bad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackinBlack Posted Monday at 06:59 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:59 PM 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: They were both terrible, Minshew slightly less terrible, but still bad. definitely agreed there. but slightly less terrible is still an upgrade. just praying we finally hit on a qb in the draft. sucks thinking about draft mid oct, but here we are. Even me a massive raider homer cant be arguing WC still alive lol. 2-4 with KC still on schedule twice. Yikes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted Monday at 07:09 PM Share Posted Monday at 07:09 PM 7 minutes ago, BackinBlack said: definitely agreed there. but slightly less terrible is still an upgrade. just praying we finally hit on a qb in the draft. sucks thinking about draft mid oct, but here we are. Even me a massive raider homer cant be arguing WC still alive lol. 2-4 with KC still on schedule twice. Yikes. I think AOC played better down the stretch than what Minshew has provided so I don't think it's really an upgrade. Agreed, it's time to actually invest into a young QB and try to build around him. Still can't believe it has been almost 20 years since we took a QB in the first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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