duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: Yeah I'm with ya. If the #1 overall pick in a strong QB class can't outperform Drew Stanton, even as a rookie, we've made a huge mistake It's not about that, at all. Even if he is out performing Taylor from day 1 of camp, he should still sit for a while. Some of us (not me) want the rookie sitting all 16 games. I want the rook to play SOME, but rather it be towards the end of the year. I do think the rook needs to get a few games in (unless some crazy way we are a playoff team) for some experience and something to build on in the offseason, but his playing time should be nothing more than for that reason. Let Stanton play until that time comes if Taylor were to be injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, duke2056 said: He would be our 3rd stringer on game days and that's it. SOOOO obvious. Cmon now. Why though? Why is Darnold’s whoever sitting behind Drew Stanton? What’s SOOOOO obvious there? Certainly someone as bright as you seem to fancy yourself can see that sitting the number one overall pick behind a guy who completed a whopping 49% of his passes last year might be a bit absurd, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Why though? Why is Darnold’s whoever sitting behind Drew Stanton? What’s SOOOOO obvious there? Certainly someone as bright as you seem to fancy yourself can see that sitting the number one overall pick behind a guy who completed a whopping 49% of his passes last year might be a bit absurd, no? It would be absurd to throw the rookie in there right away, like we always do, when that is not the optimal way to do things. THAT is what is absurd. If it wasn't absurd our actual NFL GM would not have traded for Tyrod Taylor or signed Stanton in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 At thinking signing Drew Stanton will affect our #1 picks's practice reps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Just now, duke2056 said: It would be absurd to throw the rookie in there right away, like we always do, when that is not the optimal way to do things. THAT is what is absurd. Jameis, Luck, Wentz, Mariota, Carr, Wilson, Newton, Bradford, Stafford, Flacco, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Elway, Peyton, Aikman, etc all think you’re full of ish. Just now, duke2056 said: If it wasn't absurd our actual NFL GM would not have traded for Tyrod Taylor or signed Stanton in the first place. Ah, because GM’s don’t ever do absurd ish.. good thinkin’. thumbsup.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, duke2056 said: At thinking signing Drew Stanton will affect our #1 picks's practice reps. Authored by a guy advocating playing Drew Stanton, a guy so skilled it took the likes of Mike Glennon to take his old job, over the number one overall pick. mkay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 WAit, so you still DO think Stanton will get in the way of our rookie's practice time? Would Kessler have? Would Hogan have? Are you hearing yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Jameis, Luck, Wentz, Mariota, Carr, Wilson, Newton, Bradford, Stafford, Flacco, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Elway, Peyton, Aikman, etc all think you’re full of ish. Ah, because GM’s don’t ever do absurd ish.. good thinkin’. thumbsup.gif Yeah, Dorsey trading for a QB with 1 year left on his deal was absurd. Signing a 10-12 year vet QB with some experience and some actual wins is absurd. More absurd than just rolling with Kessler and Hogan. Just absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Jameis, Luck, Wentz, Mariota, Carr, Wilson, Newton, Bradford, Stafford, Flacco, Ryan, Roethlisberger, Elway, Peyton, Aikman, etc all think you’re full of ish. Ah, because GM’s don’t ever do absurd ish.. good thinkin’. thumbsup.gif I'm still with LGB. There are some instances where a QB who sat played well. There are instances where a QB who played right away played well. There is no way to know if either way works better. If your QB is a slow learner or not prepared then yeah he should probably sit. If your offensive line is terrible he should probably sit until you can adequately protect your investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Authored by a guy advocating playing Drew Stanton, a guy so skilled it took the likes of Mike Glennon to take his old job, over the number one overall pick. mkay. Stanton is a hunk of crap, just like Kessler and Hogan. However, Stanton is infinitely better to have around than those two bums for off the field reasons. Stanton isn't getting in anyone's way in camp or practices, just like Kessler or Hogan wouldn't have. Stanton is nothing more than a cheap-o insurance policy to keep the rook from playing right away if Taylor gets hurt. He won't keep the rookie on the bench all year, zero chance of that, but he can keep him on the bench for a couple weeks if need be. That's all. Quit making it sound like people think Stanton is good or would play multiple weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Thomas5737 said: I'm still with LGB. There are some instances where a QB who sat played well. There are instances where a QB who played right away played well. There is no way to know if either way works better. If your QB is a slow learner or not prepared then yeah he should probably sit. If your offensive line is terrible he should probably sit until you can adequately protect your investment. You are correct, so wouldn't it be a good idea to PREPARE for the guy to not be ready right away? If he is ready and looking the part, duh, he can play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 1 minute ago, duke2056 said: You are correct, so wouldn't it be a good idea to PREPARE for the guy to not be ready right away? If he is ready and looking the part, duh, he can play. He definitely should be ready and definitely should look the part. This isn't a 4th round pick. This is #1 overall in a strong QB class. If Stanton is ever ahead of the rookie on the depth chart it better just be because of a rookie bias. The rookie should be many times better in an actual game... out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, duke2056 said: WAit, so you still DO think Stanton will get in the way of our rookie's practice time? Would Kessler have? Would Hogan have? Are you hearing yourself? Me? No, because Drew Stanton isn’t going to be the number two, neither would Kessler or Hogan. If he is either the coaches are being absurd (very possible) or we drafted the wrong Mfer. 4 minutes ago, duke2056 said: Yeah, Dorsey trading for a QB with 1 year left on his deal was absurd. Signing a 10-12 year vet QB with some experience and some actual wins is absurd. More absurd than just rolling with Kessler and Hogan. Just absurd. What arguement are you trying to make dookie? Your initial point was it wasn’t absurd to have a Darnold holding a clipboard for Drew Stanton, now you wanting to argue the signings in general? Pick a thought and stick with it. Who’s arguing against Tyrod? Tyrod isn’t Stanton, he’s a proven quality starter. Stanton is not. Playing Tyrod over Darnold (whoever) is reasonable, Stanton is not. Having them on the roster is great.... but that’s not remotely what we were discussing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, duke2056 said: Stanton is a hunk of crap, just like Kessler and Hogan. However, Stanton is infinitely better to have around than those two bums for off the field reasons. Who in the holy hell is arguing otherwise? 5 minutes ago, duke2056 said: Stanton isn't getting in anyone's way in camp or practices, just like Kessler or Hogan wouldn't have. Stanton is nothing more than a cheap-o insurance policy to keep the rook from playing right away if Taylor gets hurt. He won't keep the rookie on the bench all year, zero chance of that, but he can keep him on the bench for a couple weeks if need be. That's all. Why? If you think the reason our QB’s have been awful is they played too soon, I disagree. Id argue we drafted awful QB’s, save perhaps last year when we started a guy no one thought should play immediately, hence his draft position. 5 minutes ago, duke2056 said: Quit making it sound like people think Stanton is good or would play multiple weeks. When did I ever hint at anything of the kind? All I’ve said is under no circumstances should the number one overall pick be holding a clipboard for a player like Stanton... or Kessler.....or anyone on this roster not named Tyrod Taylor regardless of the circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke2056 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 7 minutes ago, Thomas5737 said: He definitely should be ready and definitely should look the part. This isn't a 4th round pick. This is #1 overall in a strong QB class. If Stanton is ever ahead of the rookie on the depth chart it better just be because of a rookie bias. The rookie should be many times better in an actual game... out of the gate. By "look the part" I dont mean look better than Stanton. He shouldnt just automatically play just because he is better than Stanton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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