DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, whodatworm23 said: A 3rd round talent at best slot corner for the Saints in round one after we signed P-Rob to fill that need in FA... just don't see that happening. Borderline first round talent that can start at any cover position in the secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, whodatworm23 said: A 3rd round talent at best slot corner for the Saints in round one after we signed P-Rob to fill that need in FA... just don't see that happening. Other picks I think in play at 27 are Hayden Hurst, Arden Key, Josh Sweat, Malik Jefferson, and Fred Warner unless someone surprising falls at DT, QB, or LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghCrew Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 23 hours ago, DoleINGout said: I see him listed as a day two pick. Day one would be early but for the Steelers it at least is a need. I said this in another thread, he's an athlete trying to play football. The Steelers place 4/5 of their draft eval on game tape, as they should, and his is awful. Outright awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, PghCrew said: I said this in another thread, he's an athlete trying to play football. The Steelers place 4/5 of their draft eval on game tape, as they should, and his is awful. Outright awful. Too strong. His projection for NFL teams and draft stock is probably similar to Jamie Collins. Athlete, late riser, early pick, turns into respectable pro for several seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghCrew Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, DoleINGout said: Too strong. His projection for NFL teams and draft stock is probably similar to Jamie Collins. Athlete, late riser, early pick, turns into respectable pro for several seasons. He's too strong? He could be blocked by one of my freshman kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, PghCrew said: He's too strong? He could be blocked by one of my freshman kids. Your criticism is too strong IMO is what I was saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghCrew Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, DoleINGout said: Your criticism is too strong IMO is what I was saying. He's timid, can't get off blocks, and lacks instincts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, PghCrew said: He's timid, can't get off blocks, and lacks instincts. But yeah, back to the Jamie Collins comparison in draft stock and athleticism, Jefferson put up 8 more reps and ran faster in the 40 (4.5 vs 4.6) while putting up very respectable broad jump and vertical jump measurements. I don't think those things are uncoachable if he even is timid as you say. You don't have to think he is a great player for your team to draft him though which is my all I'm trying to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghCrew Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, DoleINGout said: But yeah, back to the Jamie Collins comparison in draft stock and athleticism, Jefferson put up 8 more reps and ran faster in the 40 (4.5 vs 4.6) while putting up very respectable broad jump and vertical jump measurements. I don't think those things are uncoachable if he even is timid as you say. You don't have to think he is a great player for your team to draft him though which is my all I'm trying to say. The fact that you're resorting to talking about the combine to make your case tells me everything I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 35 minutes ago, DoleINGout said: Too strong. His projection for NFL teams and draft stock is probably similar to Jamie Collins. Athlete, late riser, early pick, turns into respectable pro for several seasons. 23 minutes ago, PghCrew said: The fact that you're resorting to talking about the combine to make your case tells me everything I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoleINGout Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 The reason for bringing up the combine is to acknowledge your original post about Jefferson being just an athlete. Hence, comparison to similar NFL player who had similar criticisms as a prospect. To amplify my point, I mentioned how Jefferson is arguably a better athlete. Which again goes back to your original post about athleticism @PghCrew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PghCrew Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, DoleINGout said: The reason for bringing up the combine is to acknowledge your original post about Jefferson being just an athlete. Hence, comparison to similar NFL player who had similar criticisms as a prospect. To amplify my point, I mentioned how Jefferson is arguably a better athlete. Which again goes back to your original post about athleticism @PghCrew. Yeah the problem is Jamie Collins is an athlete who is actually good at football now and was in college too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KimuraGod Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 If we pass on both Rosen and Darnold I would give up with football all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suffering_Bills Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 I think we'd take Ridley over Ragnow REAL quick. Center and a guard in round #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodatworm23 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 19 hours ago, DoleINGout said: Borderline first round talent that can start at any cover position in the secondary. We disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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