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If you would've been in disbelief if I told you who the Raiders actually drafted before the draft, you're not allowed to defend and rationalize that pick any more.

Stop blaming Guenther. Mayock and Gruden are the guys in charge, if they let Guenther pick whoever he wanted (which I highly doubt), that's their fault and responsibility.

I really doubt Muse was a pick for Gunther. Seems like a special teams pick and someone who Gruden probably loved in interviews.

He was an awful safety at Clemson, stiff as a board. Huge liability in any kind of pass coverage and don't trust him moving laterally at all.

The issue wasnt the positional conversion, it's drafting a terrible college player who's already 24 years old. Deablo was actually a good player in college.

Kind of weird that we're suddenly hyper aware of positional value after spending 1st round picks on a RB and in-the-box SS.

The Vic Tafur story is a must read is you have access. Pretty damning, almost sounds like we have a OL revolt going on. Can't imagine this stuff goes over well in the locker room and around the league.

Yup...

no its $15M of DEAD CAP so he still counts against our cap

we're not saving any cap $ doing this

The fact that the 2019 draft was just "okay" is a huge miss given that we had 3 1st round picks, including 1 top 5 pick, and 4 top 40 picks. We got 1 real difference maker and he's a RB, probably the least valuable position in the NFL.

Dont know why Raiders fans keep giving Mayock a pass. With 5 (!!) first round picks in two years and a mountain of cap space we have very little to show for it. Agree with above posters who question how much say Mayock actually has. Still, he's the GM and is ultimately responsible for player acquisition. If he can't reign in Gruden at all then that's on him. Incredibly disappointing tenure so far for the Mayock/Gruden pairing.

This looks like an exceptional LB class to me with 4 potential stars: JOK Collins Parsons Browning All 4 have pretty unique skill sets as well, with Collins and Parsons bringing great athleticism + size and JOK and Browning offering phenomenal coverage. Really excited about this group

Just started watching Edges and really like Kwity Paye. What are peoples thoughts?

Lets look at our most expensive FA signings over the last few years 1. Byron Jones ($16.5 per year) vs Trent Brown ($16.5 per year) 2. Kyle Van Noy ($12.75 per year) vs Corey Littleton ($11.67 per year) 3. Shaq Lawson ($10 per year) vs Tyrell Williams ($11 per year) Lets not forget that we were going after Byron Jones very hard. Cap space is not the issue here, play acquisition is. We traded Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper for 3 1st round draft picks over the last 2 years.