MKnight82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Doc Draper said: The Browns Front office doesn't care-glad to have him off their payroll. Their equation above shows his contribution to incremental wins is almost nonexistent. Thereby his contract is over valued by traditional football metrics. The countervailing point of view expressed by John Anthony is that The Browns with Joe Haden playing are worth an additional 2.5 points when temperatures are within 10% of the norm for the date of the game, when the humidity is below 45.6% and playing on a natural field, but when playing in a domes stadium on the third Sunday of the month that rises to 3 points. Solid joke. The sad thing is that the Browns front office at least has a plan. The Redskins? Not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, MKnight82 said: Solid joke. The sad thing is that the Browns front office at least has a plan. The Redskins? Not so much. Well, we had a guy with a plan but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 8 minutes ago, Woz said: Well, we had a guy with a plan but ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, MKnight82 said: Our current front office staff thinking of our long term plans: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 The plan is the plan. You'll see the plan... Well we heard that 3 offseasons ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, turtle28 said: The plan is the plan. You'll see the plan... Well we heard that 3 offseasons ago. Then egomaniac Brucey fired the man with the plan before it could be finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, turtle28 said: The plan is the plan. You'll see the plan... Well we heard that 3 offseasons ago. Okay, so they didn't like McCloughan's plan. Fair enough. What's the plan now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Woz said: Okay, so they didn't like McCloughan's plan. Fair enough. What's the plan now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 "Well our last two first round draft picks we took a guard at number 5 and a wide receiver who's yet to play." Jay Gruden Something different than that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, turtle28 said: "Well our last two first round draft picks we took a guard at number 5 and a wide receiver who's yet to play." Jay Gruden Something different than that! So ... you who have been one of the biggest proponents of taking Scherff over Williams is now agreeing that was a mistake? And a guy who got injured in camp in his rookie season? That's two negatives. That's not a plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Woz said: So ... you who have been one of the biggest proponents of taking Scherff over Williams is now agreeing that was a mistake? And a guy who got injured in camp in his rookie season? That's two negatives. That's not a plan. I wasn't a promoter of taking Scherff over WIlliams, if I had the #1 pick I would have taken Williams in the draft. I have justified the selection of Scherff though because it did help our OL. I still don't agree with McCloughan that Scherff was the BPA. I just can't believe he continues to say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Just now, turtle28 said: I wasn't a promoter of taking Scherff over WIlliams, if I had the #1 pick I would have taken Williams in the draft. I have justified the selection of Scherff though because it did help our OL. I still don't agree with McCloughan that Scherff was the BPA. I just can't believe he continues to say that. Okay ... I will take you at your word on that front ... Still, saying "not that!" is not a plan. Especially when it focuses on just two players, one of whom was hurt and rushed back by the coach who is running him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Woz said: Okay ... I will take you at your word on that front ... Still, saying "not that!" is not a plan. Especially when it focuses on just two players, one of whom was hurt and rushed back by the coach who is running him down. Well I was just trying to be by funny by using Gruden's quote. Scot missed on other things and hit on mid round picks and udfa's/street free agents which we haven't seen around these parts since the one year we had Marty. I never once thought McCloughan would be gone after 2 years, I thought he'd get 4 or 5 to build us into a contender. It's a shame he's gone but it is what it is. Maybe when I drive by Snyder's house on my way to my parents house tomorrow evening I throw a Molotov cocktail over his gate! Lol ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MKnight82 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 1 hour ago, turtle28 said: I wasn't a promoter of taking Scherff over WIlliams, if I had the #1 pick I would have taken Williams in the draft. I have justified the selection of Scherff though because it did help our OL. I still don't agree with McCloughan that Scherff was the BPA. I just can't believe he continues to say that. Oh come on. I could go back and copy/paste a million posts from the old forum that state otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turtle28 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 17 hours ago, MKnight82 said: Oh come on. I could go back and copy/paste a million posts from the old forum that state otherwise. I said over and over that I would have taken Williams but at the same time I said Scherff was a good player and if he turned into a pro bowler his whole career and a OG like Hutchinson or Faneca that we should be satisfied. That is the definition of not agreeing with the selection but justifying it. Any person who's been on this board since 2014 should know how much I wanted Leonard Williams. He was my #1, #1 in the 2015 draft. Now Dante Fowler... ehh, not so much! Give me Vic Beasley and Shane Ray 100 times out of 100! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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