Jlowe22 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 27 minutes ago, SkippyX said: Its really odd that Drew Brees had an unimpressive 5 year run with San Diego before he took off in New Orleans. (30-28 with an 84 rating) He had seasons with ratings in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s,, and 100+ (the 90s season was 27 passes as a rookie) Does anyone really think it had ZERO to do with coaching, players, system,, and the dome?. Who knows what his career is like if Saban brings him to Miami? I would guess it is much less impressive. But lets pretend its all Brees. Eh, he didn’t have a passer rating as good as 04 until they won the Super Bowl in 09. He also had a higher outdoor rating in 06, his first year in New Orleans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leoric Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 On 8/15/2019 at 9:21 AM, Steelersfan43 said: Ben does not have the credit that others would have had for that so many WR have had success with him ... And he overcame an awful o-line in the middle of his career Ben is constantly underestimated based on his rookie year where he stepped into a stable situation and played a game manager type of roll. Since then the dude has gotten checks written for Mike Wallace, AB, Plaxico, Santonio Holmes. The dude absolutely elevates players around him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrnastiesNO Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 On 8/29/2019 at 7:12 AM, SkippyX said: Its really odd that Drew Brees had an unimpressive 5 year run with San Diego before he took off in New Orleans. (30-28 with an 84 rating) He had seasons with ratings in the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s,, and 100+ (the 90s season was 27 passes as a rookie) Does anyone really think it had ZERO to do with coaching, players, system,, and the dome?. Who knows what his career is like if Saban brings him to Miami? I would guess it is much less impressive. But lets pretend its all Brees. Its definitely not all Brees. He benefits from a throw first offense. His first few in On 8/29/2019 at 7:38 AM, SkippyX said: I have endorsed this with research in the recent past. No one has taken more advantage in their division than Aaron Rodgers and Peyton Manning(Colts) Part of Rodgers recent failings is some actual talent in his current division. The AFC South was actually built for Peyton Manning to thrive (in 2002 they gave him an expansion team, a bad team, and an old team ready to fall off) The AFC East the year before had a 10-6 team, an 11-5 team, and the 11-5 SB Champs. OPERATION RESCUE MANNING! Brady just kills everyone. at Miami is actually a tough place for them to win every year and the Jets have been in 2 AFCCGs in the last 10 years The Cowboys and DC were in zero NFCCGs during Brady's career Brady is 1-1 against his own division in the playoffs and 29-9 against everyone else. If you cherry picked a division where he would have to play in low oxygen Denver, Miami, and Seattle/Carolina every year then maybe he would have 5 or 6 less wins and possibly 1 less Super Bowl. But swap out the Dolphins for the Giants and he probably has more wins and 2 more Super Bowls because he knocks them off in Foxborough instead of facing them on a neutral field. Belichick and Brady are both the GoaT. The organization as a whole is far smarter than your team's FO. Crying about the AFC East is a lie and changes nothing. Belichick's defense has destroyed the K-gun in the Super Bowl. His defense has destroyed Joe Montana in the playoffs twice. Does anyone really think the Bears, Lions and Vikings would have stopped him and Brady? Brady / Belichick are 23-6 in the playoffs against teams that won their division. Make that 23-3 if the other team does not have an actual breathing advantage. Yes, this means they have a better record against division winners than against the AFC East Sounds like the L. James argument. Took his team to the final every year. But it was ignored that he had the easiest route to get there. By your own admittance he is 1-1 against his division meaning they simply didn't make the playoffs. There are literally three playoff team in the AFC and has been that way for the last 15 years. (Chargers, P. Manning team, Steelers and the Ravens. ) In the east you had almost every single team be a contender at some point. Eagles, Seahawks, Saints, Panthers, Falcons, 49er's, Cardinals, Rams, Giants, . You can't compare the divisions or ignore the competition. The Patriots are 23-6 against teams that won there divisions. But how many of those teams were actually contenders. I mean someone has to make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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