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Week 5 GDT: Jacksonville Jaguars (2-2) @ Pittsburgh Steelers (3-1)


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Prisco and Boselli are giving out a ton of love for the OL this week. Prisco and Boselli both called mentioned Cann right away. 

Seemed like they did solid and after they started to wear down the defense come the 2nd half got even better as you'd expect. Really hope Cann can keep improving and turn it around and be a solid RG for us (or move over to LG and be a solution). Would be big. This OL as a hole still needs serious help but it isn't nearly as awful of a situation as most of us expected.

Edit: Jaguars Monday is where I got this btw. It's on for the next couple hours. Can see it on Facebook.

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1 hour ago, .Buzz said:

Prisco and Boselli are giving out a ton of love for the OL this week. Prisco and Boselli both called mentioned Cann right away. 

Seemed like they did solid and after they started to wear down the defense come the 2nd half got even better as you'd expect. Really hope Cann can keep improving and turn it around and be a solid RG for us (or move over to LG and be a solution). Would be big. This OL as a hole still needs serious help but it isn't nearly as awful of a situation as most of us expected.

Edit: Jaguars Monday is where I got this btw. It's on for the next couple hours. Can see it on Facebook.

They've been decent at the first level, but when they need to get to the second level for a block in the run game, it’s been really, really bad. Wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they graded out as the worst OL at the second level. I feel like that’s the primary reason Fournette hadn’t broken one. Even the 90 yarder, it was all first level blocks because the Steelers dropped everyone down. Also feel they’ve been particularly bad in short yardage situations too.

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Just now, iPwn said:

They've been decent at the first level, but when they need to get to the second level for a block in the run game, it’s been really, really bad. Wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if they graded out as the worst OL at the second level. I feel like that’s the primary reason Fournette hadn’t broken one. Even the 90 yarder, it was all first level blocks because the Steelers dropped everyone down.

This is true. Hopefully that is ironed out a bit as the season goes on. Haven't really been able to get much more than those 8-10 yard runs at most even with Fournette running over/stiff arming people.

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11 hours ago, .Buzz said:

Barry Church has been such a huge piece in getting this defense to where it is. Difference between him and Cyp is astronomical.

Yeah.  His ability to actually play a more diverse role seems like it's helped a lot.  Combined with Wash actually opening up the defense a bit beyond the rigid setup Gus wanted.  Just makes the defense more versatile, and better.  Church and Gipson seem to work pretty well together.

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7 minutes ago, Tugboat said:

That pulling block by Cann there.  That's what a dominant run game should look like.  Why can't we see more of that?

I mean, the run game has been solid. Hasn't been great and that's partly due to the OL not getting to the 2nd level as @iPwn has hinted at, but it doesn't help when our QB can't hit anything causing 7-8+ man boxes every play.

I'd be very interested to see what this run game/OL would do if the boxes weren't stacked every single play.

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1 minute ago, .Buzz said:

I mean, the run game has been solid. Hasn't been great and that's partly due to the OL not getting to the 2nd level as @iPwn has hinted at, but it doesn't help when our QB can't hit anything causing 7-8+ man boxes every play.

I'd be very interested to see what this run game/OL would do if the boxes weren't stacked every single play.

It just feels like there's way too often, even with those obviously loaded boxes...that our OLine doesn't have that dynamic movement like that.  Or at least, doesn't seem able to execute it without turning the whole blocking scheme into a big blob of humanity that Fournette has to pick or power through.

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1 minute ago, Tugboat said:

It just feels like there's way too often, even with those obviously loaded boxes...that our OLine doesn't have that dynamic movement like that.  Or at least, doesn't seem able to execute it without turning the whole blocking scheme into a big blob of humanity that Fournette has to pick or power through.

Fair, it's still early so hopefully we see more of it. OL blocked quite well this past week against a very stout front 7 so hopefully they can build on it. Not to mention we were missing our best OL in Linder (although Shatley was fairly solid).

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Just now, .Buzz said:

Fair, it's still early so hopefully we see more of it. OL blocked quite well this past week against a very stout front 7 so hopefully they can build on it. Not to mention we were missing our best OL in Linder (although Shatley was fairly solid).

Yeah.  All things considered, it was obviously plenty good to take over that game in conjunction with our defense.

Just recall seeing that block on the play live and thinking...wow...imagine what sorta yardage Fournette would've piled up between a line that consistently nailed blocks like that???

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Just now, Tugboat said:

Yeah.  All things considered, it was obviously plenty good to take over that game in conjunction with our defense.

Just recall seeing that block on the play live and thinking...wow...imagine what sorta yardage Fournette would've piled up between a line that consistently nailed blocks like that???

Yeah, to be fair that play still didn't show the OL going past the 1st level for blocks though (which has been a problem), although they didn't need to because that whole defense were right up at the line of scrimmage. Think the main reason it occurred is because of exactly that.

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Just now, Tugboat said:

Yeah.  All things considered, it was obviously plenty good to take over that game in conjunction with our defense.

Just recall seeing that block on the play live and thinking...wow...imagine what sorta yardage Fournette would've piled up between a line that consistently nailed blocks like that???

Yeah, to be fair that play still didn't show the OL going past the 1st level for blocks though (which has been a problem), although they didn't need to because that whole defense were right up at the line of scrimmage. Think the main reason it occurred is because of exactly that.

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