Fureys49ers Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: Just take Ivey and don't think twice about it. Don't let Davion Mitchell keep you from taking a potential superstar. Davion Mitchell isn’t the hang up in my mind. It’s Fox and Ivey playing with similar style offensively, lacking consistent outside shooting and nothing special defensively. I do agree to a degree though, Ivey is the clear “other player” at the top of this draft. If your the poverty franchise Kings and that kind of talent is there you don’t get to pass on it. If you’re worried about fit and are 100% on Fox and Mitchell moving forward than move the pick. And I say this being a fan of Murray’s game and potential fit with Sabonis in the front court. Edited June 17, 2022 by Fureys49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Fureys49ers said: Davion Mitchell isn’t the hang up in my mind. It’s Fox and Ivey playing with similar style offensively, lacking consistent outside shooting and nothing special defensively. Ivey can defend. I'm not worried about Jaden Ivey. Fox can't shoot and that's the biggest problem with him. I'd take Ivey and look to trade Fox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Ivey can defend. I'm not worried about Jaden Ivey. Fox can't shoot and that's the biggest problem with him. I'd take Ivey and look to trade Fox. I’ve been starting to think the same. Both Fox and Ivey aren’t terrible defensively, just not a strength. But I’ve been starting to think if we could move off Fox and his contract that might be our best route, likelihood of it happening aren’t great though. Fox and Beal wouldn’t be terrible for Washington though. Fox for some wings and 10. Edited June 17, 2022 by Fureys49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fureys49ers said: I’ve been starting to think the same. Both Fox and Ivey aren’t terrible defensively, just not a strength. But I’ve been starting to think if we could move off Fox and his contract that might be our best route, likelihood of it happening aren’t great though. Take Ivey and offer DeAaron Fox to Detroit for Grant and #5. Mitchell - Ivey - Grant - Barnes - Sabonis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 Or DeAaron Fox to the Knicks for RJ Barrett, Nerlens Noel, and #11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Fureys49ers said: I’ve been starting to think the same. Both Fox and Ivey aren’t terrible defensively, just not a strength. But I’ve been starting to think if we could move off Fox and his contract that might be our best route, likelihood of it happening aren’t great though. I'd dangle him to Washington for #10. Contracts would get tricky but the NBA is known for navigating them pretty well. I'd just go into a rebuild and try to get out of Fox's deal and move Holmes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Ivey can defend. I'm not worried about Jaden Ivey. Fox can't shoot and that's the biggest problem with him. I'd take Ivey and look to trade Fox. They should've held onto Haliburton and traded away Fox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Take Ivey and offer DeAaron Fox to Detroit for Grant and #5. Mitchell - Ivey - Grant - Barnes - Sabonis Fox isn't getting Grant and #5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: They should've held onto Haliburton and traded away Fox. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, beekay414 said: I'd dangle him to Washington for #10. Contracts would get tricky but the NBA is known for navigating them pretty well. I'd just go into a rebuild and try to get out of Fox's deal and move Holmes. KCP, Kuzma, Avdija and #10 works financially 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Fox isn't getting Grant and #5. The Pistons could afford to do a Fox swap for either Grant or #5. I know the Knicks are desperate to add a PG this offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: KCP, Kuzma, Avdija and #10 works financially That would be the deal I’d look for, throw in Holmes, and maybe Donte although I’m not sure how his contract and moving him works, who both could be helpful for the wizards. Run Davion, Ivey, Kuz, Barnes, Sabonis with Avdija, Lyles and pick 10 the first off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 17, 2022 Share Posted June 17, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: KCP, Kuzma, Avdija and #10 works financially It does but it kinda negates the Wizards need for a win-now PG. It neuters their depth. They'd have Fox, Beal, Kispert, Porzingis, Gafford (or Bryant with an extension) as starters but nothing on their bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 We'll trade you Rudy Gobert for Holmes, Barnes, and #4. @Fureys49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 17, 2022 Author Share Posted June 17, 2022 Just now, beekay414 said: It does but it kinda negates the Wizards need for a win-now PG. It neuters their depth. They'd have Fox, Beal, Kispert, Porzingis, Gafford (or Bryant with an extension) as starters but nothing on their bench. It'll be tough for Washington to add a veteran PG without sacrificing most of their depth because of KP/Beal's contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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