VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MD4L said: Lol run stopping ILB. He’s elite in coverage too. I’ve seen his work on all 29 camera angles, he’s so good it insane. He was better in coverage in 2020. But you do you boo. I'm looking forward to that 3 up and over trade you clearly have plans for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 An elite off LB never gets the contract an elite edge rusher gets, or QB, and even WR. So positional value based, it’s not ever going to happen that Warner will make that type of money. Nobody really builds their defense around the off ball LBs in this age of football. But I’ve seen Warner do things on tape that get no recognition because there’s no grade for it. But every time I’ve watched him I come away with quite an appreciation for what he’s capable of doing. So again he’s the best off ball LB in the game, and one of the ten best players regardless of positional value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, wwhickok said: He was better in coverage in 2020. But you do you boo. I'm looking forward to that 3 up and over trade you clearly have plans for. PFF tell you this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, wwhickok said: I disagree with you completely. He is a very good player, but one of the 10 best ILBs in the NFL, no we are not talking about Ray Lewis here. In today’s NFL? We kind of are. He’s that good in my books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Suggesting that there isn't more than 9 players better than Fred Warner overall, I have a feeling you think he is a top 5 player, I mean, to me, it lacks reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MD4L said: PFF tell you this? I've said this before and I'll say it again, anyone who uses PFF as their measuring stick doesn't know half as much about football as they think they do. Watching games and the fact that last year he was actually getting interceptions tells me this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, wwhickok said: Suggesting that there isn't more than 9 players better than Fred Warner overall, I have a feeling you think he is a top 5 player, I mean, to me, it lacks reality. If we’re using PFF grades or something sure? You are not taking into account what I did for a job this year (watch NFL games). I’ve got a perspective you don’t have. He’s not on my team, I don’t plan on trading for him (we’ve got Eric Kendricks - a great player IMO), but every time I watched him I literally said to myself this guy is a dominant player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Well Bengals didn’t come to play. Was a long shot anyway. But good season for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, MD4L said: If we’re using PFF grades or something sure? You are not taking into account what I did for a job this year (watch NFL games). I’ve got a perspective you don’t have. He’s not on my team, I don’t plan on trading for him (we’ve got Eric Kendricks - a great player IMO), but every time I watched him I literally said to myself this guy is a dominant player. I dont care what you did this year for a job. I disagree with your statement. I didn't say he isn't a dominant player. I'm saying I don't think he is one of the 10 best overall players in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Scoundrel said: Well Bengals didn’t come to play. Was a long shot anyway. But good season for them. The Bengals are gonna lose by 2 TDs minimum. Maybe more. That defense looks weak right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, wwhickok said: I dont care what you did this year for a job. I disagree with your statement. I didn't say he isn't a dominant player. I'm saying I don't think he is one of the 10 best overall players in the NFL. Well you are entitled to your opinion. I didn’t say you were wrong. But I will stick to my eye test. And you aren’t changing my thoughts on here at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, MD4L said: Well you are entitled to your opinion. I didn’t say you were wrong. But I will stick to my eye test. And you aren’t changing my thoughts on here at all. I'm not trying to change your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MD4L Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, wwhickok said: I'm not trying to change your mind. Anyway I did get access to camera angles and details you guys didn’t get so I can be more biased considering the resources given to me during the season. I wouldn't make that assessment without the extra things I saw this season. Edited January 30, 2022 by MD4L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VigilantZombie Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Anyway, if you got a RG (under 10k contract), a ILB (under 8k contract), or a 3-4 (Under 10k contract) for trade (or 3up & O) hmu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoundrel Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Nice BS no call on Fenton refs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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