squire12 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 29 minutes ago, OzPackfan said: The alternative is - You don’t bring back any of the free agents we have, - You trade Rodgers - Cut Smith Bros, Cobb, Turner - Do minimal restructuring of Bahktiari, Clark and Jones deals (bonuses only) - Extend Alexander (4 years 77m) We do that and we have 30m of cap space next year and 110m of cap space in 2023 That sort of offseason gives you maximum flexibility for 2023 onwards but can we be confident that we will be able to draft/sign players of the quality we have lost in 2022?? If the options after this year are something along the lines of A. Extend Rodgers + Resign Adams + cut some vets + push money into future years to give it another go in 2022 B. Trade Rodgers + let Adams walk ( or tag and trade) + cut vets to shed as much cap as possible to roll with Live in 2022 with a full rebuild. C. Trade Rodgers + Resign Adams + cut some vets + resign some other vets + push money into future years to straddle the fence on rebuild or give it another shot minus Rodgers ********* Option C is the last choice by a lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzPackfan Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, squire12 said: If the options after this year are something along the lines of A. Extend Rodgers + Resign Adams + cut some vets + push money into future years to give it another go in 2022 B. Trade Rodgers + let Adams walk ( or tag and trade) + cut vets to shed as much cap as possible to roll with Live in 2022 with a full rebuild. C. Trade Rodgers + Resign Adams + cut some vets + resign some other vets + push money into future years to straddle the fence on rebuild or give it another shot minus Rodgers ********* Option C is the last choice by a lot Option C for me is more about giving Love a chance if we decided it’s time to go with him…. If we gut the team to shed salary and turn the team over to Love without having some sort experience around him then we aren’t giving him a chance to succeed at all. Look at the 2008 team that Rodgers took over… It had experience at the WR spot with Driver and Jennings, a solid and experienced OL and defensive players like Kampman, Pickett, Barnett, Woodson, Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 9 hours ago, OzPackfan said: Any team he gets traded to only takes on a cap hit of 16m. For a team like Miami that has 73m in cap space, absorbing that could be done easily. If he plays well in 2022 they could then either re-sign him or let him walk in 2023 free agency and collect a compensatory pick in 2024. Its this reason why I think there will be some trade market. The way you put that is borderline criminal. $16M isn't anything to sneeze at. That's not chump change by any means. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but that'd be a top 10 cap hit for 3-4 OLBs. For a guy coming off a season in which he registered ZERO sacks. The notion that a team is going to give up a 3rd round pick for Z is absurd to me. Teams could EASILY spend the money elsewhere or wait until the Packers are forced to release him. That's the Z value had he been healthy and played like he did his first two years in Green Bay. 9 hours ago, OzPackfan said: Agree with your thoughts on Davis and the reason I ended up going with him over the likes of Ojabo, Lindbaum, Williams etc was that DL is more a position of need this off-season. Was originally leaning towards Ojabo until Keke was cut but saw the value the same for both. I think the top 5 you mentioned will all be gone and there’s a good chance Karlaftis would also be gone. Other viable option would be to trade back from 9 if there is a team that wants to come up to select a QB There's no doubt that DL is a top 3 need pretty easily, but our DL has played reasonably well despite Kingsley's absence. Kingsley Keke did nothing to suggest he was the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgwingman Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 12 hours ago, OzPackfan said: The alternative is - You don’t bring back any of the free agents we have, - You trade Rodgers - Cut Smith Bros, Cobb, Turner - Do minimal restructuring of Bahktiari, Clark and Jones deals (bonuses only) - Extend Alexander (4 years 77m) We do that and we have 30m of cap space next year and 110m of cap space in 2023 That sort of offseason gives you maximum flexibility for 2023 onwards but can we be confident that we will be able to draft/sign players of the quality we have lost in 2022?? Yeah I was actually working on a mock offseason of my own, when I post it feel free to comment on how pessimistic I am 🙂 The spoiler: To keep Rogers, we'll have to let most everyone else go, keeping only the cheap role players. Drafting replacements will be key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWood21 Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 2 hours ago, pgwingman said: Yeah I was actually working on a mock offseason of my own, when I post it feel free to comment on how pessimistic I am 🙂 The spoiler: To keep Rogers, we'll have to let most everyone else go, keeping only the cheap role players. Drafting replacements will be key. The Packers could have some flexibility, but it'd take some serious concessions on behalf of Aaron Rodgers. With his career earnings north of $250M, hopefully he's not completely motivated by money and willing to leave money on the table for the good of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzPackfan Posted January 21, 2022 Author Share Posted January 21, 2022 4 hours ago, CWood21 said: The Packers could have some flexibility, but it'd take some serious concessions on behalf of Aaron Rodgers. With his career earnings north of $250M, hopefully he's not completely motivated by money and willing to leave money on the table for the good of the team. Yep the only way Rodgers can stay (and it impacts our ability to keep Douglas, MVS and Tonyan) is for him to accept a deal that lowers his cap number to under 30m My projections would be something like this: - 3 year extension (through to end of 2025 season) + 1 void year - 2022 salary lowered by 25m - Signing Bonus of 37.5m - Gameday/workout bonuses of 1.5m in years 2023 through to 2025 - Salaries of 15m in 2023, 35m in 2024, 26m in 2025 - Roster bonus of 15m in 2025 All this is 108m of new money over the 3 years (36m per year average) If he wants to be paid Mahomes or Allen type money of 45m a year then IMO we can’t make it work and it’s time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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