DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Justin Herbert: 1st two years (2020 & 2021). 839/1,267. ✓ 66.2%. ✓ 9,350 Passing Yards. ✓ 69 TDs (25 INTs). ✓ 9 Fumbles (2 lost). ✓ 2.76 TD-to-INT Ratio. 11.1 yards per pass completion. ✓ 7.37 yards per pass attempt. (118 rushing attempts for 536 rushing yards and 8 rushing TDs @ 4.5 yards per carry). ✓ 6 4th Quarter Comebacks. 8 game winning drives. ✓ 77 Offensive TDs/27 Turnovers = 2.85 TD-to-Turnover Ratio. ✓ QB Rating of 97.9. Vs. Dak Prescott: 1st two years (2016 & 2017). 619/949. 65.2%. 6,991 Passing Yards. 45 TDs (17 INTs). 13 Fumbles (7 lost). 2.64 TD-to-INT Ratio. ✓ 11.2 yards per pass completion. 7.36 yards per pass attempt. ✓ (114 rushing attempts for 639 rushing yards and 12 rushing TDs @ 5.6 yards per carry). 4 4th Quarter Comebacks. ✓ 9 Game Winning Drives. 57 TDs/24 Turnovers = 2.37 TD-to-Turnover Ratio). QB Rating of 95.5. Yes. Dak Prescott was the better runner (and I'd rather draft a running back for that) but Justin Herbert (as a Quarterback) has Dak Prescott's first two years beat within just about every single statistical category (known to Quarterbacking mankind). (PFF thinks so too). Dak Prescott's PFF: • 2016: 81.5. • 2017: 72.2. √ 2016-2017 Combined Average = 76.8. Vs. Justin Herbert's PFF: • 2020: 79.9. • 2021: 90.1. √ 2020-2021 Combined Average = 85.0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squire12 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Dak https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Att Y/A+ NY/A+ AY/A+ ANY/A+ Cmp%+ TD%+ Int%+ Sack%+ Rate+ 2016* 23 DAL QB 4 16 16 13-3-0 459 119 121 123 125 120 108 127 108 123 2017 24 DAL QB 4 16 16 9-7-0 490 92 94 93 94 98 101 95 101 96 Justin https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HerbJu00.htm Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Att Y/A+ NY/A+ AY/A+ ANY/A+ Cmp%+ TD%+ Int%+ Sack%+ Rate+ 2020 22 LAC QB 10 15 15 6-9-0 595 102 104 106 108 109 106 111 109 109 2021* 23 LAC QB 10 17 17 9-8-0 672 106 110 107 109 104 110 101 113 107 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, squire12 said: Dak https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Att Y/A+ NY/A+ AY/A+ ANY/A+ Cmp%+ TD%+ Int%+ Sack%+ Rate+ 2016* 23 DAL QB 4 16 16 13-3-0 459 119 121 123 125 120 108 127 108 123 2017 24 DAL QB 4 16 16 9-7-0 490 92 94 93 94 98 101 95 101 96 Justin https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HerbJu00.htm Year Age Tm Pos No. G GS QBrec Att Y/A+ NY/A+ AY/A+ ANY/A+ Cmp%+ TD%+ Int%+ Sack%+ Rate+ 2020 22 LAC QB 10 15 15 6-9-0 595 102 104 106 108 109 106 111 109 109 2021* 23 LAC QB 10 17 17 9-8-0 672 106 110 107 109 104 110 101 113 107 @Matts4313 JUSTIN HERBERT ALL DAY. Justin Herbert: 1st two years (2020 & 2021). 839/1,267. ✓ 66.2%. ✓ 9,350 Passing Yards. ✓ 69 TDs (25 INTs). ✓ 9 Fumbles (2 lost). ✓ 2.76 TD-to-INT Ratio. 11.1 yards per pass completion. ✓ 7.37 yards per pass attempt. (118 rushing attempts for 536 rushing yards and 8 rushing TDs @ 4.5 yards per carry). ✓ 6 4th Quarter Comebacks. 8 game winning drives. ✓ 77 Offensive TDs/27 Turnovers = 2.85 TD-to-Turnover Ratio. ✓ QB Rating of 97.9. Vs. Dak Prescott: 1st two years (2016 & 2017). 619/949. 65.2%. 6,991 Passing Yards. 45 TDs (17 INTs). 13 Fumbles (7 lost). 2.64 TD-to-INT Ratio. ✓ 11.2 yards per pass completion. 7.36 yards per pass attempt. ✓ (114 rushing attempts for 639 rushing yards and 12 rushing TDs @ 5.6 yards per carry). 4 4th Quarter Comebacks. ✓ 9 Game Winning Drives. 57 TDs/24 Turnovers = 2.37 TD-to-Turnover Ratio). QB Rating of 95.5. (PFF thinks so too). Dak Prescott's PFF: • 2016: 81.5. • 2017: 72.2. 2016-2017 Combined Average = 76.8. Vs. ✓ Justin Herbert's PFF: • 2020: 79.9. • 2021: 90.1. 2020-2021 Combined Average = 85.0. = Justin Herbert = 10 check boxes (✓✓✓✓✓✓✓✓✓✓). Dak Prescott = 3 Check boxes (✓✓✓). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: @Matts4313 JUSTIN HERBERT ALL DAY. Justin Herbert: 1st two years (2020 & 2021). 839/1,267. ✓ 66.2%. ✓ 9,350 Passing Yards. ✓ 69 TDs (25 INTs). ✓ 9 Fumbles (2 lost). ✓ 2.76 TD-to-INT Ratio. 11.1 yards per pass completion. ✓ 7.37 yards per pass attempt. (118 rushing attempts for 536 rushing yards and 8 rushing TDs @ 4.5 yards per carry). ✓ 6 4th Quarter Comebacks. 8 game winning drives. ✓ 77 Offensive TDs/27 Turnovers = 2.85 TD-to-Turnover Ratio. ✓ QB Rating of 97.9. Vs. Dak Prescott: 1st two years (2016 & 2017). 619/949. 65.2%. 6,991 Passing Yards. 45 TDs (17 INTs). 13 Fumbles (7 lost). 2.64 TD-to-INT Ratio. ✓ 11.2 yards per pass completion. 7.36 yards per pass attempt. ✓ (114 rushing attempts for 639 rushing yards and 12 rushing TDs @ 5.6 yards per carry). 4 4th Quarter Comebacks. ✓ 9 Game Winning Drives. 57 TDs/24 Turnovers = 2.37 TD-to-Turnover Ratio). QB Rating of 95.5. (PFF thinks so too). Dak Prescott's PFF: • 2016: 81.5. • 2017: 72.2. 2016-2017 Combined Average = 76.8. Vs. ✓ Justin Herbert's PFF: • 2020: 79.9. • 2021: 90.1. 2020-2021 Combined Average = 85.0. = Justin Herbert = 10 check boxes (✓✓✓✓✓✓✓✓✓✓). Dak Prescott = 3 Check boxes (✓✓✓). 1. I never argued this so quit following me around like a lost puppy dog 2. Most everything here is due to the fact that Herbert had 300 more attempts. 3. I am sure you know absolutely nothing about the complete collapse of the 2nd half of 2017; ya know, where the pressure rate on Dak doubled and we fired our OL coach? Statistically, in 2017 Dak was tied with "MVP" Wentz up until the Falcons game After the Falcons game our entire team fell apart. We fired our OL coaches and most of our WRs "Superstar WRs" (as you put it) surrounding Dak went on to do absolutely nothing in the NFL ever again, outside of Beasely. 4. ANY/A is the stat you should be focusing on. Its the most important. 5. Again, why the F are you tagging me into a debate I never argued? Edited March 1, 2022 by Matts4313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 BTW - just so you know - posting the same set of stats over and over doesnt prove your point. It makes you annoying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: BTW - just so you know - posting the same set of stats over and over doesnt prove your point. It makes you annoying. 40 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: gain, why the F are you tagging me into a debate I never argued? Why did you quote me within the Free Agency thread when me talking about Justin Herbert vs. Dak Prescott had absolutely nothingness to do with you, so why did you feel the need to QUOTE ME? PS: I kind of like how you went into the Philadelphia Eagles forum and shared the link to my Dalton Schultz thread (Dallas Goedert) in order for them to back you up on my Dalton Schultz beliefs; that was really funny of you to do 😆. Edited March 1, 2022 by DefenseWinsChampionships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWinsChampionships Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: 1. I never argued this so quit following me around like a lost puppy dog Kind of like how you followed me around from your Dallas forum and into the General Forum (Dalton Schultz thread) and followed me into it like a lost puppy dog? 🤭 But on a more serious note I rank Dak Prescott around 8-10ish amongst all other QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: Why did you quote me within the Free Agency thread when me talking about Justin Herbert vs. Dak Prescott had absolutely nothingness to do with you, so why did you feel the need to QUOTE ME? Why did I quote you in a thread I was already posting in? Is that really your response? 3 minutes ago, DefenseWinsChampionships said: PS: I kind of like how you went into the Philadelphia Eagles forum and shared the link to my Dalton Schultz thread (Dallas Goedert) in order for them to help you out with my Dalton Schultz beliefs; that was really funny of you to do 😆. Oh, thats because you are a walking meme and had your eyes on nabbs at the time. I thought it was funny as hell. But I didnt tag you, did I? I simply made a joke at your expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkippyX Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Dak is a unique cat in that he was at his best as a rookie. That's very rare. Dak was a better rookie and Herbert was a better 2nd year guy. I'm guessing Herbert's 3-on will be better than Dak's 3-on (Dak's an 8-14 range guy and I think Herbert is a 2-9 range guy) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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