Just Want A Title Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Karnage84 said: I'm thinking Martinez is going to wind up in a position change. I'll have to look closer at him but he seemed to be more of a runner than a passer. He was a good runner and a great athlete but was never a good QB. I could see him as X-Receiver, H-Back or pass-catching TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Just Want A Title said: He was a good runner and a great athlete but was never a good QB. I could see him as X-Receiver, H-Back or pass-catching TE. He had a 64.5% completion rate on basically 50% of Hooker's attempts. If he's going to play QB at the NFL level, he's going to need a lot of work. He has a 9.45 RAS as a QB. 6.46 at WR 7.57 at TE 8.02 at RB 9.33 at FB I can see him being on the PS as a QB while getting work in as a WR/TE-H. If he can't progress at QB, then we'll hear of a formal position change . Edited May 1, 2023 by Karnage84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: He had a 64.5% completion rate on basically 50% of Hooker's attempts. He has a 9.45 RAS as a QB. 6.46 at WR 7.57 at TE 8.02 at RB 9.33 at FB I can only tell you that after 49 games he never really shook his inconsistencies. This isn't a Russel Wilson situation. You could call him enigmatic or inconsistent but if that hasn't gone away after 50 games, it isn't likely to get better. He has never thrown for more than 17 TDs in one season and only threw 6 in his final season: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/adrian-martinez-2.html Edited May 1, 2023 by Just Want A Title Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lions017 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Martinez doesn't really have an NFL future to me but he could be useful on the practice squad. They might also like what he brings to the table from a mental point of view. Some guys just get the position/game and that can be useful to have around. He's athletic enough to kind of mimic the playstyle of the mobile passers we're going to come up against albeit not nearly as successfully. I imagine we'd definitely keep Sudfeld but maybe he has a spot if Hooker isn't healthy to start the season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Lions017 said: Martinez doesn't really have an NFL future to me but he could be useful on the practice squad. They might also like what he brings to the table from a mental point of view. Some guys just get the position/game and that can be useful to have around. He's athletic enough to kind of mimic the playstyle of the mobile passers we're going to come up against albeit not nearly as successfully. I imagine we'd definitely keep Sudfeld but maybe he has a spot if Hooker isn't healthy to start the season. He is a really good athlete and could be a contributor at another position. It will be interesting to see what the Lions decide to do with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 QB QB Adrian Martinez Kansas State (24) - 6'1 7/8, 221 lbs RAS - 9.45 (4.55 40; 1.61 10YS; 36 VJ; 9'07 BJ; 4.21 SS; NO 3C PFF: 85.7 OVR; 69.7 PASS; 87.6 RUSH; 60.0 RBLK RB RB Mohamed Ibrahim Minnesota (24.6) - 5'8, 203 lbs PFF: 89.2 OVR; 87.4 RUSH; 60.1 REC; 33.1 PBLK; 62.1 RBLK; No ST WR WR Chase Cota Oregon - 6'3 2/8, 201 lbs; 32" Arms; 9 6/8 Hands RAS - 9.34 (4.51 40; 1.56 10YS; 37.5 VJ; 10'06 BJ; 4.14 SS; 6.86 3C PFF: 64.4 OVR; 67.3 REC; 40.2 RBLK; 59.7 ST; 60.5 PR Snaps: 276 Slot; 190 Wide WR Keytaon Thompson Virginia - 6'3 7/8, 218 lbs; 33 3/8 Arms; 10 1/4 Hands RAS - 5.36 (4.66 40; 1.66 10YS; 34.5 VJ; 10'0 BJ; 4.35 SS; 7.12 3C PFF: 72.2 OVR; 72.9 REC; 82.4 PBLK; 61.7 RUSH; 64.4 RBLK; 67.9 ST SNAPS: 327 Slot; 67 TE; 48 WIDE WR Antoine Green (7th Rder) (23) - 6'1 6/8, 199 lbs; 32 1/8; 9" Hands RAS - 8.68 (4.47 40; 1.51 10YS; 33.5 VJ; 10'03 BJ; 4.27 SS; 6.99 3C PFF: 76.2 OVR; 76.7 REC; 65.0 RBLK; 60.0 ST; 61.8 KR Snaps: 449 WR (432 RWR); 13 Slot *I included Green as a 7th rounder since he'll be measured against the UDFA's OL OL Connor Galvin Baylor (23) - 6'6 4/8. 299 lbs; 32 1/2 Arms; 9" Hands RAS - 5.35 (5.48 40; 1.79 10YS; 30.5 VJ; 8,08 BJ; 4.92 SS; 8.0 3C PFF: 77.6 OVR; 75.7 PBLK; 74.8 RBLK; 64.3 ST Snaps: 882 LT OL Ryan Swoboda UCF - 6'9 4/8, 309 lbs; 34 5/8 Arms, 9 7/8 Hands RAS - 9.31 (5.29 40; 1.72 10YS; 29 VJ; 9,04 BJ; 4.69 SS; 7.64 3C PFF: 61.3 OVR; 49.4 PBLK; 68.0 RBLK; 62.7 ST Snaps: 68 LT; 266 RT C Brad Cecil South Florida - 6'3 1/8, 294 lbs, 31 5/8, 9 5/8 Hands RAS - 5.16 (5.50 40; 1.79 10YS; 29 VJ; 9'01 BJ; 4.69 SS; 7.80 3C PFF: 47.9 OVR; 39.0 PBLK; 52.4 RBLK Snaps: 761 OC; 1 LG DB S Brandon Joseph Notre Dame (22) - 6'0 3/8, 202 lbs; 30 7/8, 9' Hands RAS - 6.47 (4.62 40; 1.56 10YS; 30.5 VJ; 9' 10 BJ; 4.23 SS; 7.08 3C) PFF: 73.4 OVR; 62.0 RDEF; 77.1 COV; 55.7 ST; 77.2 PR Snaps: 233 FS; 97 SCB; 50 SS; 42 LB DB Starling Thomas UAB (23) - 5'10 1/8, 190 lbs; 30 5/8 Arms, 9 5/8 Hands RAS - 6.63 (4.38 40; 1.59 10YS; 37.5 VJ; 10'05 BJ; 4.36 SS; 7.29 3C PFF: 79.2 OVR; 78.7 RDEF; 78.8 COV; 60.4 ST Snaps: 632 CB; 27 SCB; 27 LB; 6 SS; 3 FS DL DE Zach Morton Akron - 6'4 7/8, 261 lbs; 33" Arms; 9 1/2 Hands RAS - 9.31 (4.88 40; 1.59 10YS; 35.5 VJ; 10'01 BJ; 4.47 SS; 7.07 3C) PFF: 64.4 OVR; 52.3 RDEF; 75.6 PRSH; 55.9 COV; 77.5 ST Snaps: 191 ROLB; 147 LOLB; 80 LE; 69 RE DE Chris Smith Notre Dame - 6'1 2/8, 302 lbs; 31 1/4 Arms, 9 7/8 Hands RAS - 8.46 (5.08 40; 1.76 10YS; 31 VJ; 9'01 BJ; 4.60 SS; 7.25 3C) PFF: 71.5 OVR; 70.6 RDEF; 69.7 PRSH; 58.1 ST Snaps: 92 DLT; 91 DRT; 54 NT DT Cory Durden NC State - 6'4, 290 lbs; 33 1/2 Arms, 10 1/8 Arms RAS - 4.94 (5.22 40; 1.90 10YS; 31 VJ; 9'02 BJ; 4.80 SS; 7.56 3C) PFF - 66.5 OVR; 66.9 RDEF; 64.8 PRSH Snaps: 454 NT; 25 DLT; 18 DRT LB LB Isaac Darkangelo Illinois - 6'0 3/8, 227 lbs, 31 1/4 Arms; 9 1/2 Hands RAS - 7.16 (4.55 40; 1.55 10YS; 31 VJ; 9'02 BJ; 4.25 SS; 6.94 3C) PFF: 77.1 OVR; 85.6 RDEF; 63.8 PRSH; 57.8 COV; 72.6 ST Snaps: 157 RILB; 151 LILB; 37 MLB LB Trevor Nowaske Saginaw Valley State - 6'2 4/8, 237 lbs; 31 5/8 Arms; 10' Hands RAS - 9.86 (4.50 40; 1.59 10YS; 34.5 VJ; 10'02 BJ; 4.20 SS; 6.75 3C) PFF: No score 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detfan782004 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 23 hours ago, Just Want A Title said: I can only tell you that after 49 games he never really shook his inconsistencies. This isn't a Russel Wilson situation. You could call him enigmatic or inconsistent but if that hasn't gone away after 50 games, it isn't likely to get better. He has never thrown for more than 17 TDs in one season and only threw 6 in his final season: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/adrian-martinez-2.html Being in Omaha and about 40 minutes from Memorial Stadium I have seen too much of Martinez. I can't stand the Huskers but Frosts downfall was sticking with Martinez as long as he did. He is horrible decision maker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted May 2, 2023 Author Share Posted May 2, 2023 I think the best to hope for with Martinez is that he spends a few years on the practice squad and helps the team prepare for mobile QBs on the scout team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 (edited) Trevor Nowaske 11 GP Tackles: 48 Assist: 50 Total: 98 (8.9/G) > 3rd in Conference Sacks: 1 TFL: 9.5 > 12th in Conference FF: 0 FR: 0 INT: 4 (22 Yards or 5.5 per INT) > T2 in Conference PBU: 7 > T7th in Conference BLOCK: 0 Edited May 2, 2023 by Karnage84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnage84 Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 (edited) MINICAMP INVITES Eastern Michigan WR Dylan Drummond 6'0, 186 lbs RAS: 3.67 (4.62 40; 1.67 10YS; 33 VJ; 9'09 BJ; 4.33 SS; 6.86 3C) PFF: 68.1 OVR; 67.6 REC; 64.0 RBLK https://emueagles.com/news/2023/5/2/football-emus-drummond-and-powell-receive-nfl-camp-invites.aspx San Antonio Brahmas (XFL kicker) John Parker Romo https://xflnewshub.com/xfl-news/san-antonio-brahmas-kicker-john-parker-romo-gets-invite-to-detroit-lions-minicamp/ Xavier Bell DB Portland State 6'1 2/8, 194 lbs; 31 1/2 Arms, 9 3/8 Hands RAS: 6.61 (4.58 40; 1.56 10YS; 38.5 VJ; 10'10 BJ; 4.69 SS; 7.69 3C) PFF: 72.2 OVR; 67.1 RDEF; 71.7 COV https://skylinesportsmt.com/from-the-big-sky-to-the-nfl-a-list-of-former-league-standouts-heading-to-the-pros/ Patrick Murtagh, Aussie Rules (International Pathway Program) - 6'5, 220 lbs https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/news/lions-add-tight-end-patrick-murtagh Pittsburg State WR Jalen Martin This was last year apparently Edited May 4, 2023 by Karnage84 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Want A Title Posted May 4, 2023 Share Posted May 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, Karnage84 said: Minicamp invites (I'm on my phone, will fill out) Eastern Michigan WR Dylan Drummond 6'0, 186 lbs Pitt State WR Jalen 6'3, 210 lbs San Antonio Brahmas (XFL kicker) John Parker Romo I can't really believe that Brad Holmes and company want the fate of a playoff game to reside on the leg of Michael Badgely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superduperman Posted May 4, 2023 Author Share Posted May 4, 2023 13 hours ago, Just Want A Title said: I can't really believe that Brad Holmes and company want the fate of a playoff game to reside on the leg of Michael Badgely. It's May 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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