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G08 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 4 hours ago, beardown3231 said: Well that's why I'm asking. What changed?? How come Mooney was a good weapon 2 years ago & a great late round pick and now he's not good enough for Fields? Why does Fields need 3 good weapons when most teams don't have that many? Brock Purdy has: Brandon Aiyuk Deebo Samuel George Kittle Christian McCaffery Dak Prescott has: CeeDee Lamb Michael Gallup Brandin Cooks Jake "don't call me Turd" Ferguson Tony Pollard Jalen Hurts has: A.J. Brown Devonta Smith Dallas Goedert D'Andre Swift Tua Tagovailoa has: Tyreek Hill Jaylen Waddle Raheem Mostert etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmike90 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, G08 said: @Madmike90 Yeah this was one of the points I was making at the start of the week...there is no real issue with the "rookie contact" clock right now...we have time to figure it out and I think the comparison to Dak is an excellent one here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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G08 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 12:28 PM, beardown3231 said: Fields had 3.37 seconds to throw yesterday, second highest in the NFL I bet if he had the Cowboys OL it would've been an offensive show like we've never seen! Ah you love painting only one side of the picture, don't you? and Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 20, 2023 Share Posted December 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, G08 said: Brock Purdy has: Brandon Aiyuk Deebo Samuel George Kittle Christian McCaffery Dak Prescott has: CeeDee Lamb Michael Gallup Brandin Cooks Jake "don't call me Turd" Ferguson Tony Pollard Jalen Hurts has: A.J. Brown Devonta Smith Dallas Goedert D'Andre Swift Tua Tagovailoa has: Tyreek Hill Jaylen Waddle Raheem Mostert etc That's not "most teams" How many does Love have? Reed and...? Mahomes has Kelce and....? Allen has Diggs and Cook? Herbert has Allen and Williams but those 2 are always hurt. Stafford has Kupp and Nacua and...? 57 minutes ago, G08 said: Ah you love painting only one side of the picture, don't you? and Your point is what? On AVERAGE he had 3.37 seconds to throw, second most of any QB. Let's assume he was pressured on 20/45 dropbacks because the OL was awful. That means he had ample time to throw on 25 dropbacks. Now let's actually put that to the side because we all know all 20 pressures weren't blown assignments. Is it possible 4-5 were him holding the ball too long? Presumably if you hold it for 4 seconds and then get hit/sacked, that's still a pressure, right? Edited December 20, 2023 by beardown3231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Your point is what? My point is that on 7 of his drop backs he was pressured in 2.5 seconds or less. How the hell do you play QB like that let alone trust your line? Let me ask you this directly: do you think the OL play was good last week? Do you feel that we were not overmatched compared to Cleveland's defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: That's not "most teams" You're right, it's not most teams. It's the good teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, G08 said: You're right, it's not most teams. It's the good teams. Where are Buffalo's 3 great weapons? Where are Baltimore's? LAR's? Chiefs? Chargers? Jaguars? 31 minutes ago, G08 said: My point is that on 7 of his drop backs he was pressured in 2.5 seconds or less. How the hell do you play QB like that let alone trust your line? Let me ask you this directly: do you think the OL play was good last week? Do you feel that we were not overmatched compared to Cleveland's defense? I don't think the OL played well. I said as much postgame. Nobody played "fine" offensively. Cleveland's pass rush overwhelms a lot of OL's Edited December 21, 2023 by beardown3231 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 1 minute ago, beardown3231 said: Where are Buffalo's 3 great weapons? Where are Baltimore's? LAR's? Chiefs? Chargers? Jaguars? Buffalo has Stefon Diggs, Dalton Kincaid, James Cook etc. The Chiefs are a terrible example, look at what's happened to Patrick Mahomes and that offense THIS SEASON without Tyreek Hill. Jacksonville has Calvin Ridley, Evan Engram, Christina Kirk and Travis Etienne (by the way, Trevor Lawrence has a lower TD% than Justin Fields, shhh) The Chargers are averaging 1.1 points per game more than the Chicago Bears etc etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beardown3231 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, G08 said: Buffalo has Stefon Diggs, Dalton Kincaid, James Cook etc. The Chiefs are a terrible example, look at what's happened to Patrick Mahomes and that offense THIS SEASON without Tyreek Hill. Jacksonville has Calvin Ridley, Evan Engram, Christina Kirk and Travis Etienne (by the way, Trevor Lawrence has a lower TD% than Justin Fields, shhh) The Chargers are averaging 1.1 points per game more than the Chicago Bears etc etc etc 8 minutes ago, G08 said: Buffalo has Stefon Diggs, Dalton Kincaid, James Cook etc. The Chiefs are a terrible example, look at what's happened to Patrick Mahomes and that offense THIS SEASON without Tyreek Hill. Jacksonville has Calvin Ridley, Evan Engram, Christina Kirk and Travis Etienne (by the way, Trevor Lawrence has a lower TD% than Justin Fields, shhh) The Chargers are averaging 1.1 points per game more than the Chicago Bears etc etc etc Kincaid has like 90 more yards than Mooney Chiefs are a terrible example? How come? They didn't have Hill last year and won the Super Bowl My god you guys are obsessed with Trevor Lawrence. I already said a page or two back I'd be saying the same about him if he was the QB here. Those weapons are Ridley (inconsistent), Kirk (been hurt + we all laughed at that deal) and Engram is nothing but a JAG.. yet they're still in the top third of the NFL offensively The offense is averaging 1.1 ppg more than the Bears because Allen and Williams are consistently hurt, the coach was a loser, the QB missed the last game and Ekeler stinks now. Are you insinuating you'd take Fields over Herbert? I'm not going to do this with you all night. As I said earlier in the tjread we did this same nonsense with Trubisky. If they keep Fields, obviously I hope I'm wrong. I just know how "Moore was going to make Fields a stud and he's the Bears version of Diggs to BUF and Brown to PHI" and now all of a sudden he needs MORE. That's your opinion. Clearly we'll never agree Edited December 21, 2023 by beardown3231 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 12 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: My god you guys are obsessed with Trevor Lawrence. You're the one that brought up Jacksonville... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted December 21, 2023 Share Posted December 21, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, beardown3231 said: Chiefs are a terrible example? How come? Did you read what I wrote regarding the Chiefs and this year? He still has one of the greatest TEs to ever play the game at his disposal and it's clearly not enough. Andy Reid's Chiefs offense is the worst it's been since 2016, Patrick Mahomes is having the worst statistical season of his career, etc. How many more examples do you want lol Edited December 21, 2023 by G08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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