Billy86

I'll put my hand up - he reminded me of Mitch Trubisky. I wouldn't say I was laughing at them, but at the time I did question it (and was looking correct in his rookie year, big credit to Josh for working tirelessly to improve to the level he has).

Same here. Ever since the first game I saw him in, he reminded me of a slightly different version of Aaron Jones. This is horrible, gotta hope he makes a full recovery but he also missed a lot of last year injured.

And they picked him over a guy who has had arguably the best rookie QBseason ever who has only carried on as he left of again this year.

So I'm not a "pff is useless garbage" type, but it sure has flaws! Apparently we had a 58.7 run locking grade in this game. Added to that, we have about a 74 rushing grade so far this year, and a 62 run blocking grade. Yet we are on pace to break the all time NFL single season rushing record with 3,392, with only 320 of them being QB running yards (whereas the 2019 Ravens had 1,296 thanks to Lamar) and doing so with in an almost identical number of carries (592 on our pace vs 596 for the 2019 Ravens). Our average YPC among all non-QB runners would be 5.65! Obviously we are not going to keep up at this pace and will be back passing more when Love returns (and even as Willis gets more familiar in the meantime), but it's still the pace we are on right now. Hypothetically, if this continued we would smash the all time team rushing record with a game to spare, while according to PFF having our RBs playing average, and our run blockers just playing flat out bad. I just found it kind of comical, is all.

I was watching on red zone, hence my commenting on several plays as they happened - including the one in question. You really were projecting when you mentioned making things up. You just can't help yourself.

No, because the referee clearly says something to Chase as he walks by him and his body language (and later penalty flag) shows he was very, very unhappy with Chase's conduct, and because the same poster thanked my post saying it was wrong of the ref to do so otherwise, which would be a bit weird if the were being sarcastic - https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/55950-week-2-general-discussion/page/93/#comment-5891853 Ironically, it seems like you're making the sarcasm story up out of thin air.

Kyler Murray is also the exact same size as Bryce (5'10 204lbs vs 5'10 207lbs) and this was the same thing that was said constantly about him before the draft too. Size does matter, but it is pretty overrated and can be overcome if you have the tools to. Thing is, Bryce Young doesn't look to have those tools, or even the tools to succeed if he were 6'4, 240lbs.

1. I didn't stick to any story 'from thin air', I was taking the word of a separate poster who said that is what happened and who wasn't even replying to me: https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/55950-week-2-general-discussion/page/92/#comment-5891827 2. I didn't say that is what happened, I said IF that is what happened, as it is what the other poster had pointed to. At no point did I claim it to be what had happened. 3. After the late games ended I went back, checked to get another good look at what happened, and agreed with both of the other posts: https://forums.footballsfuture.com/topic/55950-week-2-general-discussion/page/102/#comment-5892145

Jones has at least shown something here and there (though I don't rate him at all), as has Watson. Bryce Young has had a ****ty situation sure, and that could turn around still (see: Jared Goffs rookie year), but right now of all starters he or Nix would be the last I would take. I'll give Nix the tiniest bit of extra rope though, since he has had just two games so far.

@squire12 @Nabbs4u I looked back on the chase sportsman like penalty and you're birth right. I had said the ref was also in the wrong if he immediately told Chase to eff off for saying something as he passed which might have caused Chase to follow (escalation), but wasn't sure. Looking back Chase actually approaches him from the front (he was coming from the offensive back field area), follows him for several yards continuing to do so, then briefly backs away before going back again. And on the replay where you see him throw the flag from a reverse angle, it looked like even then had Chase walked away once Burrow got to him, he may have escaped the flag. That was George Pickens level stupid.

They didn't against GB last year (they got an hilariously soft roughness call on Mahomes who was shoved as he ran with the ball, but later didn't get a DPI call where Kelce was being ridden). It was a huge moment for GB's season and after a few big wins was the right time to be questioning if they had turned a corner or if Jordan Love had 'arrived'. Instead, the commentators and post game basically ignored that entirely to go apoplectic over how KC didn't get the call. They get a lot of soft calls from the refs, but so do almost all teams with a superstar QB for whatever stupid reason (GB have also be benefited from this at times) so that doesn't bother me about them specifically. The pretty clear and open media bias in their favour on the other hand... that just kind of grates.

It's not the refs I am frustrated with in the DPI call (packers fan here so I have no dog in the fight), as much as the commentators trying to make it out as if it were a clear two handed grab. Gave me flashbacks to all the furore they (a d the post game) tried to kick off after the GB/KC game last year.

I'm waiting for the game to wrap up to jump back to it, actually now you mention it.

"Throw the MF flag? WTF is wrong with you, you GD blind?" No, not enough to change my mind there at all. Otherwise we'd be seeing a half dozen flags like that almost every single game.

And if he told Chase to gtfo out of his face immediately, he is in the wrong here (or rather, they both are).