hoekd0250 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Gary Patterson Offense - Pistol and up tempo offense Defense - 4-2-5 Nick Perry, Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Draft pick Oren Burks, Blake Martinez Kevin King (CB) Kentrell Brice (SS) Josh Jones (FS) Josh Jackson (SS) Jaire Alexander (CB) https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/30/5818160/tcu-football-defense-strategy-formations-xs-os-gary-patterson http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-u/offense-film-study-u/2015/09/02/the-tcu-offense-packaged-screens-and-pistol-play-action/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
incognito_man Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, hoekd0250 said: Gary Patterson Offense - Pistol and up tempo offense Defense - 4-2-5 Nick Perry, Mike Daniels, Kenny Clark, Draft pick Oren Burks, Blake Martinez Kevin King (CB) Kentrell Brice (SS) Josh Jones (FS) Josh Jackson (SS) Jaire Alexander (CB) https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/6/30/5818160/tcu-football-defense-strategy-formations-xs-os-gary-patterson http://insidethepylon.com/film-study/film-study-u/offense-film-study-u/2015/09/02/the-tcu-offense-packaged-screens-and-pistol-play-action/ Hi, Gary! Welcome to footballs future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoekd0250 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, incognito_man said: Hi, Gary! Welcome to footballs future! He would be our Belichich being able to coach offense and defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mr. Fussnputz said: Matt Campbell? From Iowa St. to the NFL with no pro experience? That's quite a jump. Why do you put him over LaFleur? Do you think LaFleur is going to want too much say? I believe LaFleur will be a close runner-up. Any serious finalists will be coaches comfortable with a limited say in personnel so no I do not think LaFleur will be bypassed for seeking too much say. Another name to watch is the other Campbell, Dan Campbell the TEs coach in New Orleans. Gutekunst was somewhat baited into accepting this ridiculous structure upon hire. He's smart enough to know that his way to seize more control is to part with McCarthy and replace him with a coach hungry and eager to be an NFL head coach without needing to help "buy the groceries". People can stop speculating on a Harbaugh or any coach who's going to want a major say in personnel or whose scheme only works with certain players. Gute is going to hire the most adaptable offensive mind who won't be power hungry and is excited to tailor schemes to bring out the most of Aaron Rodgers final productive years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 49 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: Gutekunst was somewhat baited into accepting this ridiculous structure upon hire. He's smart enough to know that his way to seize more control is to part with McCarthy and replace him with a coach hungry and eager to be an NFL head coach without needing to help "buy the groceries". People can stop speculating on a Harbaugh or any coach who's going to want a major say in personnel or whose scheme only works with certain players. Gute is going to hire the most adaptable offensive mind who won't be power hungry and is excited to tailor schemes to bring out the most of Aaron Rodgers final productive years. You've had a ****on for this organizational structure since day one. No need to regurgitate all thats been said before - but you misrepresent it above when you imply that MM has any actual control over the roster. He doesnt now - and never did. Thats Gutes baby. All MM wanted (and got) was input on the process. Somebody to listen to him. Somebody to (maybe) ask: "What do you think?" TT had shut him out. MM complained about it. Now, he gets listened to - if only by Murphy. Thats all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 18 hours ago, Leader said: You've had a ****on for this organizational structure since day one. No need to regurgitate all thats been said before - but you misrepresent it above when you imply that MM has any actual control over the roster. He doesnt now - and never did. Thats Gutes baby. All MM wanted (and got) was input on the process. Somebody to listen to him. Somebody to (maybe) ask: "What do you think?" TT had shut him out. MM complained about it. Now, he gets listened to - if only by Murphy. Thats all. Yeah because it's horribly flawed when Murphy has the final say and not the GM. You can get emotional as you want about me pointing it out, but it's fact so deal with it. And its not a secret fact at that. Gute needs to test his powers in 2 ways come this offseason. 1) He needs to find out if he can fire the head coach without being overruled by Murphy. And 2) He needs to see if he'll have complete freedom to pick who he wants as a replacement. Now if you're Brian Gutekunst, are you going to hire someone who wants to play a big role in player acquisition and set yourself up to remain accountable to multiple authorities? Or are you going to hire someone who clearly ranks behind you and therefor not seeking continuing scheduled weekly audience with the team president? If Gutekunst is either overruled by Murphy on firing McCarthy or if Murphy tries to pick the next coach, Gute should run as fast and far away from this situation as he can. Many here excused the "keep McCarthy" mandate at the outset given the awkward transition. I don't think anyone here was on board with Murphy being the final decision maker forever. Gute firing McCarthy and replacing him with someone to coach the players he chooses is a clear break that needs to be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 "You can get emotional as you want about me pointing it out, but it's fact so deal with it. And its not a secret fact at that" Typical. A drawn out, overly long response. You're making declarative statements that in truth are nothing more than assumptions. Opinions noted. Moving on (in a very unemotional kind of way LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 It''s not assumption, are you off your meds? Murphy publicly stated that McCarthy reports directly to him and not Gutekunst. And he also declared that he will have final say as to whether or not the coach stays or goes. Gute's best play is to call Murphy's bluff and if so granted, bring in someone who he clearly outranks. One week prior to hiring Gute, Murphy stated that the next GM would have total authority so we know he wasn't seeking all this power at the outset. Something changed in that week. It CAN and SHOULD be rolled back. This is Gute's chance. And if people need a friggin' link, it's proof of how little people here are paying attention. Or maybe like "Leader" here they conveniently forget? Or is it burying one's head in the sand? This is (was) public knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 In a separate post so as not to mix speculation (here) with fact (above), I'll say that what happened in that week prior to Gute's hire was that McCarthy got in Murphy's ear and sparked the change in heart regarding granting full authority to the next GM. Cut the Fat, get the extra cooks out of the kitchen, and let the GM do his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Here's an apparently overdue reminder that as part of his weekly meeting with McCarthy, Mark Murphy has supervision of “game plan, games, coaching positions. everything that’s under the head coach’s control". That is just a snippet of the power Murphy assumed when he chose this current structure over his original stated plan to give the GM full authority. Game plans folks, game plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfanfb Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: Here's an apparently overdue reminder that as part of his weekly meeting with McCarthy, Mark Murphy has supervision of “game plan, games, coaching positions. everything that’s under the head coach’s control". That is just a snippet of the power Murphy assumed when he chose this current structure over his original stated plan to give the GM full authority. Game plans folks, game plans. Murphy's as big if not a bigger problem than McCarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leader Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Careful now Anon....dont want to get too emotional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, packfanfb said: Murphy's as big if not a bigger problem than McCarthy. The one hope is that if McCarthy goes, so too does this ridiculous structure. As I mentioned above, Murphy originally stated his intent to give the GM full authority. The widely speculated reason for the change of heart in one week's time was McCarthy's hissy fit. McCarthy was very adamant against Ball. And while McCarthy was Pro-Gute, the RUMOR was that he had a problem with answering to someone younger than him. Thus Murphy's solution was to hire Gute but allow McCarthy to answer to him and not the younger GM. Cut the Fat and Murphy can take the appropriate step back and give the GM the authority he originally set out to grant. Links.... https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/01/08/mark-murphy-mike-mccarthy-emerge-from-g-m-search-with-bigger-roles/ https://www.totalpackers.com/2018/01/mark-murphys-brilliant-power-structure-will-backfire/ https://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/dougherty/2018/01/08/dougherty-mark-murphys-move-comes-big-risks-packers/1013970001/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Leader said: Careful now Anon....dont want to get too emotional So you've been shown wrong and that's all you got. Noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Don't be surprised to have it spill out (or even announced) once McCarthy is fired that Gutekunst has been granted full authority as to who the next coach will be and that Murphy will no longer act as a go-between. Murphy very well may publicly state that the next coach will report directly to Gute. At least we can have that hope. And if what I just laid out is how this goes down, you'll all have your proof that this stupid triumvirate was simply in place to appease Mike McCarthy. Good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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