mistakey Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 12 hours ago, Bonanza23 said: Low standards. Unfortunately those low standards are hard to meet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: No, I get where you stand, I’m asking why though. What quality does he lack for being a HC in your opinion? He hasn’t called plays long enough even tho it’s not a requisite for a hc to call plays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Sashi, I’ll always love you, but it’s time for me to let you go. I have a new crush, and his name is Freddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, mistakey said: He hasn’t called plays long enough even tho it’s not a requisite for a hc to call plays Sure is good at it for such inexperience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 hours ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: No, I get where you stand, I’m asking why though. What quality does he lack for being a HC in your opinion? Neither you or I know enough about to say either way, tbh. I just feel that hes a position coach thrust into an OC position and has the opportunity to be groomed into a HC by the guy he learned from to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 9 hours ago, Thomas5737 said: If he goes 6-2, I think you have to seriously consider him. I know Hue isn't the bar you judge by but winning twice as many games in 8 attempts as Hue did in 40... that shows a new culture at least. Edit: I assumed you guys were talking about Williams, obviously it was Kitchens. Either way, I think both should be considered. We haven’t beat anybody of substance. 2 above .500 teams we got whooped, one we beat at the time was depleted by injury. Again he’s not Hue is what people are excited by? Btw I agree Kitchens should be considered, I’m not saying he shouldn’t. Williams? Yeah no he’s not a good head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Just now, pnies20 said: Neither you or I know enough about to say either way, tbh. I just feel that hes a position coach thrust into an OC position and has the opportunity to be groomed into a HC by the guy he learned from to begin with. What grooming occurs by being an OC? What does grooming entail exactly? Good assistant position coaches become position coaches. Good position coaches become coordinators. Good coordinators become HC’s. Kitchens is already a coordinator and has killed it this year. What’s next? Does Gregggg or Bruce need to show him how to throw a challenge flag or something? Legit asking and not just being a smartarse, what exactly does grooming consist of? Much like Greggg has likely done with Freddie, Freddie can hire a DC and let them run the D. Freddie runs the offense with Baker. Dorsey and Co manage the 53. Easy peasy lemon squeezey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 21 minutes ago, dawgdish said: There are guys like Andy Reid who became successful Head Coaches based on their work with position groups who never called plays before getting in the big seat, so I don't necessarily see the fact Kitchens only called 6 games as a huge drawback. He should be considered on his body of work, personality, and vision for how to run a program. If those check out during the interview, it's a good gamble to take in my book. Now this I can’t argue. The all important interview. Something none of us are privy to. I’m just not seeing why people are saying he absolutely should be the next head coach when he hasn’t even been an OC in his 40 plus years of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonanza23 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 18 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Sashi, I’ll always love you, but it’s time for me to let you go. I have a new crush, and his name is Freddie. Nice avy! Hard to center them bad boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Bonanza23 said: Now this I can’t argue. The all important interview. Something none of us are privy to. I’m just not seeing why people are saying he absolutely should be the next head coach when he hasn’t even been an OC in his 40 plus years of life. From what I can tell anyway, he and Baker seem to get along well and work very well together. Not sure if the importance of their relationship can be understated. As far as why it took him so long to become a coordinator, perhaps his lad back, “aw shucks” country personality didn’t do him any favors with the hiring suits? Dunno.. I will say it looks like someone should have given him the gig before now, as he sure as hell looks ready and able. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LETSGOBROWNIES Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: Nice avy! Hard to center them bad boys Freddie even made that easy. There’s nothing this man can’t do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnies20 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 17 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: What grooming occurs by being an OC? What does grooming entail exactly? Good assistant position coaches become position coaches. Good position coaches become coordinators. Good coordinators become HC’s. Kitchens is already a coordinator and has killed it this year. What’s next? Does Gregggg or Bruce need to show him how to throw a challenge flag or something? Legit asking and not just being a smartarse, what exactly does grooming consist of? Much like Greggg has likely done with Freddie, Freddie can hire a DC and let them run the D. Freddie runs the offense with Baker. Dorsey and Co manage the 53. Easy peasy lemon squeezey. He’ll be attached to Arians hip and learning how to run a franchise as a HC from someone that did it a high level. I think it lowers the risk of Kitchens flopping as a HC and there’s really no downside. There’s continuity and establishing of solid assistants for him that he might not have had otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas5737 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Bonanza23 said: We haven’t beat anybody of substance. 2 above .500 teams we got whooped, one we beat at the time was depleted by injury. Again he’s not Hue is what people are excited by? Btw I agree Kitchens should be considered, I’m not saying he shouldn’t. Williams? Yeah no he’s not a good head coach. If we would have beat the bad Raiders and TB we'd be the leading #2 wildcard team right now. I know you want a Super Bowl but step one is getting to the playoffs and getting some experience. You do that by beating average and worse teams. I think these last 2 games are huge for us. If we can win out and beat a team trying to get a playoff spot in the process I think winning 6 out of 7 games is going to be really hard to ignore. If we hire a new coach and go 5-11 next year for whatever reason I don't know if he lasts beyond that season. If we lose either of the last two games I think it makes it easier to overlook the internal guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, pnies20 said: He’ll be attached to Arians hip and learning how to run a franchise as a HC from someone that did it a high level. I think it lowers the risk of Kitchens flopping as a HC and there’s really no downside. There’s continuity and establishing of solid assistants for him that he might not have had otherwise. downside is that we lose him next year.. same downside as if we hired GGG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mistakey Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, LETSGOBROWNIES said: Freddie even made that easy. There’s nothing this man can’t do. howd urs get zoomed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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