NCAA Proposal on Immediate Eligibility for Transfers

[PAW]

57 minutes ago, jrry32 said:

Where are they not being treated like regular students? Do they not have to attend class or maintain their grades?

 

The biggest one for me is admission standards.  If you want to make the claim the are no different than any other student, they need to be able to get into the school on merit.  So all of the student-athletes who have a 2.0 GPA and 900 SAT can go to Marshall or West Virginia (both those schools would become powerhouses if you made them actually get into the school based on academics).  You can't claim they should be treated like every other student when they wouldn't even be at the school to be a regular student if it wasn't for their athletic ability.  Duke's basketball program wouldn't exist with these standards.

5 paid official visits (no regular student is paid to visit schools and wined and dined)

Access to free tutoring (aka cheating at many schools)

Access to private facilities (private gyms, private recreation centers, training tables, etc.). 

 

[jrry32]

10 hours ago, PAW said:

 

The biggest one for me is admission standards.  If you want to make the claim the are no different than any other student, they need to be able to get into the school on merit.  So all of the student-athletes who have a 2.0 GPA and 900 SAT can go to Marshall or West Virginia (both those schools would become powerhouses if you made them actually get into the school based on academics).  You can't claim they should be treated like every other student when they wouldn't even be at the school to be a regular student if it wasn't for their athletic ability.  Duke's basketball program wouldn't exist with these standards.

5 paid official visits (no regular student is paid to visit schools and wined and dined)

Access to free tutoring (aka cheating at many schools)

Access to private facilities (private gyms, private recreation centers, training tables, etc.). 

 

They are in school on their merit. They met the minimum standards, and their athletic merits got them in. It's not like schools don't let in people on merits other than simply GPA and SAT beyond athletes.

Does the school newspaper have private facilities (i.e., its own office space)? Does the school radio have private facilities? Those private facilities are in place to help them with their extracurricular activity. We know this is true since they aren't employees deserving just compensation.

[WeaponX]

Another example: if you do research, you have access to extremely expensive facilities.

[ramssuperbowl99]

I wouldn't even really disagree that much with someone who says "yeah I know those kids are getting screwed but I really don't care enough to want to change a sport I like". But pretending that the transfer rules and lack of actual compensation is a good deal and fair is just delusional.

[Thelonebillsfan]

Pretty much. Just be honest, it never has and never will have jack crap to do with academics or standards or any of that. You don't want your sport to change and you don't want the chance that players being compensated or allowed free movement when requested because it's a change.