Packerraymond Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 7 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: You're right in that I shouldn't be putting this all on the OL coach. More specifically, the loss of institutional knowledge on how to develop OL is the issue that bothers me. And that's turnover of a lot more than the coaching staff. I think not getting the right athletes in the door lately is also to blame. Everyone always acts like the OL guys that UW or Iowa bring in are just "big ole farm boys" but I remember lots of talks with my coach at UWO (where the state all-star game is played every year) and how he sat up in his office and watched how freaky guys like Travis Frederick, Ricky Wagner, Kevin Zietler, Gabe Carimi moved for their size and age. Also how Joe Thomas was a straight up alien when it came to athletic ability. Don't think recruiting services did justice on a lot of upper Midwest OL. They were athletes more than farm boys. They've kind of self-corrected now and other teams outside the area have caught on too. It's not just UW/Iowa/OSU only that's recruiting these guys anymore, the cat is out of the bag. We need to beat Notre Dame, PSU, OSU and the SEC for these guys now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: I think not getting the right athletes in the door lately is also to blame. Everyone always acts like the OL guys that UW or Iowa bring in are just "big ole farm boys" but I remember lots of talks with my coach at UWO (where the state all-star game is played every year) and how he sat up in his office and watched how freaky guys like Travis Frederick, Ricky Wagner, Kevin Zietler, Gabe Carimi moved for their size and age. Also how Joe Thomas was a straight up alien when it came to athletic ability. Don't think recruiting services did justice on a lot of upper Midwest OL. They were athletes more than farm boys. They've kind of self-corrected now and other teams outside the area have caught on too. It's not just UW/Iowa/OSU only that's recruiting these guys anymore, the cat is out of the bag. We need to beat Notre Dame, PSU, OSU and the SEC for these guys now. Are we going to say Jack Nelson wasn't athletic enough? Malhman? Benz? Rucci? There's been plenty of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 1 minute ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Are we going to say Jack Nelson wasn't athletic enough? Malhman? Benz? Rucci? There's been plenty of talent. I'm saying, the OL coaches got more credit than they deserved back then at the expense of the kid's natural talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: I'm saying, the OL coaches got more credit than they deserved back then at the expense of the kid's natural talent. Even if the talent has been equal coming in over the past 20 years, the output hasn't been good enough and that's on the program as a whole. I don't know what you're trying to point out here. Are you satisfied with how we're developing OL compared to how we used to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 12 Author Share Posted January 12 At least AJ Blazek looks the part lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 We're currently 6 over the 85 man scholarship limit. I wonder who gets processed/transfers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 17 hours ago, beekay414 said: We're currently 6 over the 85 man scholarship limit. I wonder who gets processed/transfers? This would be the group from where I'd expect the transfer outs... Cole LaCrue Jackson Acker Nate White Cade Yacamelli Chris Brooks Tommy McIntosh Cole Dakovich James Durand Barrett Nelson Michael Jarvis Jake Chaney Bryan Sanborn Max Lofy Would say Jeff Pietrowski and Aaron Witt but we're so low on EDGE rushers that we need every body there. Don't want to lose Nate White, Chris Brooks or Tommy McIntosh but would understand if they move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 15 Author Share Posted January 15 Writing may have been on the wall with the other 3 grabs at ILB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 Colin Hitschler is apparently Bama bound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 21 hours ago, beekay414 said: Colin Hitschler is apparently Bama bound Would bet a good amount Perry Eliano will be hired for that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 2 minutes ago, Packerraymond said: Would bet a good amount Perry Eliano will be hired for that role. Wasn't he just fired by Ohio State? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, beekay414 said: Wasn't he just fired by Ohio State? His contract was not extended, but he was CBs coach at UC for Fickell, during the time he was there he had Sauce and Coby Bryant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: His contract was not extended, but he was CBs coach at UC for Fickell, during the time he was there he had Sauce and Coby Bryant. Any chance we shuffle things around and have Haynes coach safeties with Eliano going back to CBs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Just now, beekay414 said: Any chance we shuffle things around and have Haynes coach safeties with Eliano going back to CBs? Could be, they might just do a "DB coach" and "Pass Game Coordinator" thing too, that's becoming popular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Could be, they might just do a "DB coach" and "Pass Game Coordinator" thing too, that's becoming popular. Hitschler just seems like a huge recruiting loss. He was the primary for Dilin Jones, Kevin Heywood, Omillio Agard, Raphael Dunn, Remington Moss, Ryan Cory and Gideon Ituka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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