Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: How about try to make this make sense from our end. My knowledge only confirms the existence of a cult. Not that Rags is cult leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, The Orca said: Well I disagree Wtf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, The Orca said: Well I disagree Depends on the cult mechanic, but it is almost always more difficult than mafia. It vanillas our roles and invalidates our investigations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Orca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Like how scum want to hunt others rather than scum, cult wants to hunt mafia rather than cult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theuntouchable Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Lol this is a pretty hilarious turn of events from whicker considering my last interaction with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orca Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, Matts4313 said: Depends on the cult mechanic, but it is almost always more difficult than mafia. It vanillas our roles and invalidates our investigations. If it's a cult that can take any town then it makes it harder yes, but isnt as much of a threat imo. That said, most of the cults recently (in my games as well) there has been a limitation to the roles they could recruit (that's why 1 of them I gave them an invest for my game). In that scenario the cult is far less harmful and chasing a smaller number of people puts town at a disadvantage Make mafia worry about when a cult is gonna win or take over the game. Make them deal with it or lose. Hunt for mafia because they most likely have a hit that takes away a role and a player that is against them. They can limit the playing field to make it easier for any scum to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, theuntouchable said: Lol this is a pretty hilarious turn of events from whicker considering my last interaction with him What are you going on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, The Orca said: If it's a cult that can take any town then it makes it harder yes, but isnt as much of a threat imo. That said, most of the cults recently (in my games as well) there has been a limitation to the roles they could recruit (that's why 1 of them I gave them an invest for my game). In that scenario the cult is far less harmful and chasing a smaller number of people puts town at a disadvantage Make mafia worry about when a cult is gonna win or take over the game. Make them deal with it or lose. Hunt for mafia because they most likely have a hit that takes away a role and a player that is against them. They can limit the playing field to make it easier for any scum to win So a hit is -1 players. A conversion is -1 players and +1 to an enemy. But yeah a hit is worse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orca Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, Whicker said: Orca 9 minutes ago, Whicker said: Like how scum want to hunt others rather than scum, cult wants to hunt mafia rather than cult Do you see something wrong here lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, The Orca said: Do you see something wrong here lmao Not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Whicker said: So a hit is -1 players. A conversion is -1 players and +1 to an enemy. But yeah a hit is worse Not only that its: -1 town, +1 scum & it invalidates any moves/reads on the player & any moves they had. Like If I said "BCB is cleared, I investigated him last night". Cult is converting BCB. Now: We lose BCB, his role & my investigation on him. Scum gains BCB & my clear on him. @The Orca - cult is generally much harder to deal with. Edited January 19, 2020 by Matts4313 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 Just now, Matts4313 said: Not only that its: -1 town, +1 scum & it invalidates any moves/reads on the player & any moves they had. Like If I said "BCB is cleared, I investigated him last night". Cult is converting BCB. Now: We lose BCB, his role & my investigation invest on him. Scum gains BCB & my clear on him. @The Orca - cult is generally much harder to deal with. I’m surprised we agree on something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Orca Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Whicker said: So a hit is -1 players. A conversion is -1 players and +1 to an enemy. But yeah a hit is worse That 1 player is still against the mafia Assume ratio of 15-4-1 It takes 3 days of perfect conversions (which again I'm betting on limitations on number and who can be converted if there is a cult) to reach the size of the mafia. At the same time mafia can hit town and if town is lynched, after 3 days its 9-8 town vs scum (assuming just 1 hit and no vig, cult, or extra mafia hit If there is a known cult outed then it makes more sense....but we know nothing right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whicker Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 So Orca immediately dismissed hunting cult which is absolutely the scummiest thing that’s been done so far in this game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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