pf9 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 (edited) As of 2020, only half of the NFL's current teams have seen at least one of their home stadiums over the years host the Super Bowl: the 49ers, Buccaneers, Cardinals, Chargers, Colts, Cowboys, Dolphins. Falcons, Giants/Jets, Jaguars. Lions, Rams, Saints, Texans, and Vikings. Starting with Super Bowl 58, every Super Bowl up to 74 (except 59) should be awarded to the host stadiums of the teams whose home stadiums have never hosted the Super Bowl. In fact, the AFC North is currently the only division where none of its teams have had its stadium host the Super Bowl, which is particularly devastating in Cleveland, as FirstEnergy Stadium is the oldest NFL venue that has never hosted an NFL playoff game of any sort, and the Browns are the only NFL team that have never won a division title in my lifetime, which can largely be blamed on Art Modell, and later, the decision of the Browns not to draft Ben Rothlisberger in 2004. So this means that quite a bit of Super Bowls between 58 and 74 would be played in cold weather venues. The New Jersey Super Bowl doesn't have to be a one-time thing. If need be, the halftime show can be held at a nearby NBA/NHL venue. The host team rotation for Super Bowls 75-104 (two venues are shared by two teams) would then be determined by a lottery, and this rotation would then stick for as long as the NFL is a 32-team league. The NFL did not even have a Sun Belt team until 1946, their 27th season of operation. Thus, every title game between 1933-45 was played in a cold-weather venue. And most continued to be until the merger with the AFL. Edited November 23, 2020 by pf9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 So I guess I'll just start at the top... 5 minutes ago, pf9 said: Starting with Super Bowl 58, every Super Bowl up to 74 (except 59) should be awarded to the host stadiums of the teams whose home stadiums have never hosted the Super Bowl Why? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 The NFL is the only big 4 sports league to regularly stage their championship round at a neutral site (though a site could lose its neutrality if the team that regularly plays at that stadium advances to the Super Bowl). Theoretically, that means that every NFL team has an equal chance on paper to see their home stadium host the Super Bowl, even if the team doesn't advance to a Super Bowl played in their home venue. However, most outdoor Super Bowls have taken place in the Sun Belt, and all but one Super Bowl played in the Snow Belt has been played in a venue with some sort of roof. The only Super Bowl played in a true cold-weather venue was the 48th edition, played in New Jersey's MetLife Stadium. I felt that opened the door to future outdoor Super Bowls up north, and even College Football Playoff title games. New Orleans was taken out of Super Bowl 58's hosting duties, and given 59 instead, because of Mardi Gras conflicts. So, given that the Browns play in the oldest NFL venue that has never seen postseason football above the high school level, they deserve to have FirstEnergy Stadium play host to Super Bowl 58. And with my desire that locally-based musicians perform at each Super Bowl, the halftime show could feature Michael Stanley and the Resonators, even if it has to be at nearby Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse. Stanley, also a DJ on WNCX, could really use that national exposure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 42 minutes ago, pf9 said: So, given that the Browns play in the oldest NFL venue that has never seen postseason football above the high school level, they deserve to have FirstEnergy Stadium play host to Super Bowl 58. And with my desire that locally-based musicians perform at each Super Bowl, the halftime show could feature Michael Stanley and the Resonators, even if it has to be at nearby Rocket Mortgage Fieldhouse. Stanley, also a DJ on WNCX, could really use that national exposure. 50 minutes ago, Forge said: So I guess I'll just start at the top... Why? I'm still not seeing any sort of value in this. Nobody wants to willingly go to Cleveland. The Super Bowl is an event - people want to go to exciting locations, fun places. That's not Cleveland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, ET80 said: I'm still not seeing any sort of value in this. Nobody wants to willingly go to Cleveland. Steelers fans willingly go to Cleveland all the time, to see their team face the Browns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 41 minutes ago, pf9 said: Theoretically, that means that every NFL team has an equal chance on paper to see their home stadium host the Super Bowl, even if the team doesn't advance to a Super Bowl played in their home venue. No it doesn't. Not at all. It's not like it's a random drawing where all teams are written on a piece of paper and put into a hat for someone to pull out. The NFL is going to choose venues that work best for the sport as a whole, and like it not, that's not going to include several cities that have NFL teams, most likely, regardless of what exclusionary data set they use to choose the host. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 (edited) Think about it, the NFL has the chance to be the only big 4 sports league where every team has seen their host venue play host to a Super Bowl. It's much easier than having every team appear in the NBA Finals, Stanley Cup Finals, or World Series (where both participants are guaranteed home games) over the years. Think about it. The World Series is 118 years old, and there is still one team who has not appeared in it: the Mariners, who have the longest active playoff drought among all big 4 sports teams. Not even an expansion of MLB's playoffs to 16 teams this year was enough to end their drought, which continued by only 2 games (finishing that many games behind what is currently baseball's most hated team, the Astros; many Mariners fans were probably p*ssed off that MLB decided not to ban the Astros from this year's postseason, like what commonly happens to college sports teams that break the rules; because doing so might have meant the Mariners made the playoffs for the first time since Ichiro debuted in MLB). Edited November 24, 2020 by pf9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, pf9 said: Think about it, the NFL has the chance to be the only big 4 sports league where every team has seen their host venue play host to a Super Bowl The fact that they are the only one of the 4 big sports to have a super bowl probably has something to do with that 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, pf9 said: Steelers fans willingly go to Cleveland all the time, to see their team face the Browns. But that's because they're scheduled to go for a Regular Season game. Do you think someone from Miami would want to go to Cleveland to watch KC vs New Orleans? Probably not, and that probably extends to pretty much everywhere. Now, someone from Miami will jump on a plane to Vegas in a heartbeat. Or, New Orleans. NY makes sense if you're wanting a cold game - same with Chicago (but spectators don't want to be in the cold - they'd prefer warmer climates). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, Forge said: The fact that they are the only one of the 4 big sports to have a super bowl probably has something to do with that What I meant was, be the host in their league's final round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, ET80 said: But that's because they're scheduled to go for a Regular Season game. Do you think someone from Miami would want to go to Cleveland to watch KC vs New Orleans? Probably not, and that probably extends to pretty much everywhere. Now, someone from Miami will jump on a plane to Vegas in a heartbeat. Or, New Orleans. NY makes sense if you're wanting a cold game - same with Chicago (but spectators don't want to be in the cold - they'd prefer warmer climates). A huge section of Miami's population is from the North. They are no strangers to cold weather. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forge Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Just now, pf9 said: What I meant was, be the host in their league's final round. And why does it matter? Does it make the league more money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, pf9 said: A huge section of Miami's population is from the North. They are no strangers to cold weather. What? Source to this? This doesn't sound even remotely true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, pf9 said: Think about it, the NFL has the chance to be the only big 4 sports league where every team has seen their host venue play host to a Super Bowl. Serious question - why does this matter? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pf9 Posted November 24, 2020 Author Share Posted November 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Forge said: And why does it matter? Does it make the league more money? Money causes more problems than it solves (read: the decisions of the NBA and NHL to stage play during non-traditional timeframes, instead of delaying the start of their official offseasons to at least July 1 by canceling the rest of their seasons; in fact they look like hypocrites compared to the NCAA - March Madness is a much more popular sporting event than either the Stanley Cup or NBA Finals, and the NCAA was willing to cancel that). And regarding the Mariners, I wouldn't be surprised if their fans file a class-action lawsuit against MLB, after their failure to ban the Astros from the postseason played a huge role in the Mariners' playoff drought continuing despite the expanded playoffs. Just now, ET80 said: What? Source to this? This doesn't sound even remotely true. It's a well-known fact. Many people in Florida have relocated from Snow Belt states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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