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3 hours ago, Bitty 2.0 said:

People need to let the " Parker is an LT" go, the man played LT at a small school 4 years ago.

People need to let go of Brandon Parker being our starting RT when he only played 33% of our snaps last season. He had a prime opportunity to step in at RT once Trent went down and the staff had more faith in an old Sam Young and a backup guard in Good to hold the position down.

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58 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

People need to let go of Brandon Parker being our starting RT when he only played 33% of our snaps last season. He had a prime opportunity to step in at RT once Trent went down and the staff had more faith in an old Sam Young and a backup guard in Good to hold the position down.

Parker is a physical specimen his issues are mental.

If or when it clicks he's gonna be a monster, that's why all the love.  He's a small school prospect who needed to be coached up.

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2 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said:

Parker is a physical specimen his issues are mental.

If or when it clicks he's gonna be a monster, that's why all the love.  He's a small school prospect who needed to be coached up.

But in year 3 he still didn't show much. Over the last two years David Sharpe, Sam Young, and Denzelle Good have all played better than Parker at RT. 

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10 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

But in year 3 he still didn't show much. Over the last two years David Sharpe, Sam Young, and Denzelle Good have all played better than Parker at RT. 

Yes you're right, this is the great thing about having stability at the coaches level. They have 5 years to coach up players.

I also think last year shouldn't be judged all that much with all the canceled practices and he probably needed practice more than most.

 

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9 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said:

Yes you're right, this is the great thing about having stability at the coaches level. They have 5 years to coach up players.

I also think last year shouldn't be judged all that much with all the canceled practices and he probably needed practice more than most.

I could understand that if he was a rookie. But he was headed into year 3 in the same system with the same positional coach. I'd be all for bringing in a veteran and letting him battle it out with Parker for the spot. But I don't think there's anyway that you can confidently come into the season with him as your only real option at RT.

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14 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

I could understand that if he was a rookie. But he was headed into year 3 in the same system with the same positional coach. I'd be all for bringing in a veteran and letting him battle it out with Parker for the spot. But I don't think there's anyway that you can confidently come into the season with him as your only real option at RT.

I'm 100% with you, the Raiders need to bring in another RT and let the best player win. I just think Parker might actually step it up.

 

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13 minutes ago, Bitty 2.0 said:

I'm 100% with you, the Raiders need to bring in another RT and let the best player win. I just think Parker might actually step it up.

Possibly. I'd welcome David Sharpe back with open arms or target Mitchell Schwartz if we're looking for a stop gap. 

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2 hours ago, NYRaider said:

Kolton Miller himself said he had a hard time going from LT to RT at UCLA. 

Yeah.  Not everybody can just flip the footwork. Remember Donald Penn?

Swing tackle isn’t just a misnomer for any backup tackle. Parker hasn’t proven to be a swing tackle. Sharpe was better at that. Should have kept him 

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4 hours ago, NYRaider said:

People need to let go of Brandon Parker being our starting RT when he only played 33% of our snaps last season. He had a prime opportunity to step in at RT once Trent went down and the staff had more faith in an old Sam Young and a backup guard in Good to hold the position down.

Parker failed at RT.... that’s a Done deal.  It’s over.  His only chance is as a backup LT and possibly as a Khalif Barnes 3rd OT in heavy run sets.... but with Moreau being a good blocker I’d probably prefer him anyways because there’s at Least some threat of a pass.

With Parker hitting playing time escalators in his rookie contract due to playing so much his rookie year his cap hit has jumped to 2.45M.  

i Say cut him now and bring in a backup LT for >1.0M.  What’s the point of Parker?  If he has to play LT we’re all petrified Carr will get killed.  Is there any chance Parker becomes a decent LT?  Almost none.  Move on, draft someone new.  Save the money.

when Sam young is getting killed and you stick with him Over Parker it’s obvious he’s garbage.

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1 minute ago, Turnobili said:

Yeah.  Not everybody can just flip the footwork. Remember Donald Penn?

Swing tackle isn’t just a misnomer for any backup tackle. Parker hasn’t proven to be a swing tackle. Sharpe was better at that. 

Which is something that has always fascinated me about NFL OT. Most starters are locked in at either LT or RT but backups are expected to be ready and able to fill in at either spot. 

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1 minute ago, Turnobili said:

Yeah.  Not everybody can just flip the footwork. Remember Donald Penn?

I assume it’s much harder for veterans with 5-10+ years at LT to switch. Basic muscle memory.  They’re also playing on the highest level, one in which even small deficiencies in technique will kill you.  

but throughout college players quite often move from G to T and LT to RT.  Happens all the time.  They can often overcome deficiencies with size, speed, skill.  They’re going up against less skilled and technical players.  
 

Some players can make the move and some can’t.  It’s really a case by case basis.  But if your not skilled enough to be a LT then it’s unlikely you’ll make it at RT.  

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5 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

Which is something that has always fascinated me about NFL OT. Most starters are locked in at either LT or RT but backups are expected to be ready and able to fill in at either spot. 

I think there’s a specific type of OT for swing tackle.  Sometimes a lesser skilled guy hangs on as a backup because he has the ability to play both.

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29 minutes ago, NYRaider said:

Which is something that has always fascinated me about NFL OT. Most starters are locked in at either LT or RT but backups are expected to be ready and able to fill in at either spot. 

i guess the idea is that if you're not going to be good at either spot you should at least be adequate at both

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