candyman93 Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 (edited) Booker has been like prime Kobe. Edited June 20, 2021 by candyman93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 looks like Philly could be done with Simmons. I hope the Cavs try like hell to get him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 32 minutes ago, buno67 said: looks like Philly could be done with Simmons. I hope the Cavs try like hell to get him He needs to be your 3rd or 4th best player. His shooting is inexcusable as a professional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big poppa pump Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, candyman93 said: He needs to be your 3rd or 4th best player. His shooting is inexcusable as a professional. It seems like Philly is going to feel the pressure to "have" to move him. I wonder if this takes away some of the value, and thus, the amount needed to get him in a trade? Edited June 21, 2021 by big poppa pump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I’m not paying a better passing version of Tony Allen a max deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 I would gladly take Ben Simmons off the 76ers hands. The defense alone makes me want him. Put him at the 4 and surround him with shooters. Not like we’d use the cap space he’d take him in a smart way anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I would gladly take Ben Simmons off the 76ers hands. The defense alone makes me want him. Put him at the 4 and surround him with shooters. Not like we’d use the cap space he’d take him in a smart way anyway. Depends on the price. Love would have to be included to make salaries work obviously but I doubt the 76ers would trade Simmons for just Love. Cavs would likely have to attach our 1st rounder this year or a guy like Sexton to make it worth it for them. I dont know if the Cavs trading both Love/Sexton for Simmons who is incredibly limited offensively would be smart. Having Okoro/Simmons/Allen on the floor together would be great defensively, the Cavs would just never score more than 85 points in a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, AkronsWitness said: Depends on the price. Love would have to be included to make salaries work obviously but I doubt the 76ers would trade Simmons for just Love. Cavs would likely have to attach our 1st rounder this year or a guy like Sexton to make it worth it for them. I dont know if the Cavs trading both Love/Sexton for Simmons who is incredibly limited offensively would be smart. Having Okoro/Simmons/Allen on the floor together would be great defensively, the Cavs would just never score more than 85 points in a game. I think okoro would have to go also. But okoro should be on the bench. He can’t guard forwards. Just guards. And who knows with Allen. We might not match whatever he signs for. He’s not worth anything close to the max. I’d rather go into the future with Garland and simmons and build around that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 16 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I’d rather go into the future with Garland and simmons and build around that. I agree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkronsWitness Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 31 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: I think okoro would have to go also. But okoro should be on the bench. He can’t guard forwards. Just guards. And who knows with Allen. We might not match whatever he signs for. He’s not worth anything close to the max. I’d rather go into the future with Garland and simmons and build around that. He cant guard Forwards because Okoro is a SG. Hes 6'4"-6"5 being asked to play out of position every night because the Cavs front office is hellbent on making this Garland/Sexton backcourt work. Which is another reason Sexton either needs to be moved to the bench or traded with Love. You trade Love/Sexton for Simmons and have: PG- Garland SG- Okoro SF- Kuminga/Green/Johnson/Barnes PF- Simmons C- Allen Which makes me excited. A whole lot of growing needs to be done on offense, but man that defense would be lethal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyman93 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 Ben is scared to shoot. You can’t fix that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, candyman93 said: Ben is scared to shoot. You can’t fix that. We just need him to play defense and pass the ball. We have enough ball hogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 1 hour ago, sdrawkcab321 said: We just need him to play defense and pass the ball. We have enough ball hogs. exactly... also something mentally has to be off. he wasnt like this in other playoff series in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdrawkcab321 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 48 minutes ago, buno67 said: exactly... also something mentally has to be off. he wasnt like this in other playoff series in the past. Doc is an enabler. Always has been. At least Brett brown use to make him set screens and roll and off ball screens when he doesn’t have the ball. Doc just lets him stand around disinterested. He’s got too much time to think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buno67 Posted June 21, 2021 Share Posted June 21, 2021 33 minutes ago, sdrawkcab321 said: Doc is an enabler. Always has been. At least Brett brown use to make him set screens and roll and off ball screens when he doesn’t have the ball. Doc just lets him stand around disinterested. He’s got too much time to think. also feel like he has to defer to Embid a lot. Speaking of Embid his TOs are not being talked about nearly as much. 16TOs the last 2 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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