HazletonEagle Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 11 hours ago, Folesadelphia said: Here's a list of every known prospect the Eagles have met with this off-season: Cooper Beebe, Offensive Guard, Kansas State (T30) Khristian Boyd, Defensive Tackle, Northern Iowa (T30) Caelen Carson, Cornerback, Wake Forest (T30) Brandon Coleman, Offensive Tackle, TCU (T30) Edgerrin Cooper, Linebacker, Texas A&M (T30) Audric Estime, Running Back, Notre Dame (COM) Jaylan Ford^, Outside Linebacker, Texas (COM, T30) Tyler Guyton, Offensive Tackle, Oklahoma (T30) Christian Haynes, Offensive Guard, Connecticut (COM) Jaden Hicks, Safety, Washington State (COM) Theo Johnson, Tight End, Penn State (COM) Laiatu Latu, Defensive End, UCLA (T30) Jordan Magee, Linebacker, Temple (PRO) Christian Mahogany^, Offensive Guard, Boston College (COM, T30) Bo Nix, Quarterback, Oregon (COM) Andru Phillips, Cornerback, Kentucky (T30) Brenden Rice, Wide Receiver, USC (T30) Decamerion Richardson, Cornerback, Mississippi State (T30) Chop Robinson, Outside Linebacker, Penn State (T30) Ainias Smith^, Wide Receiver, Texas A&M (T30, VIR, PRO) Jeremiah Trotter Jr., Linebacker, Clemson (COM) Trevin Wallace, Outside Linebacker, Kentucky (T30) James Williams, Linebacker, Miami (COM) Zak Zinter, Offensive Guard, Michigan (T30) This is via Walterfootball (This is the only thing I use that site for because it's garbage.) thats not even close to a comprehensive list. it appears walterfootball is not even good for that. PURPLE = met at Indy Combine TEAL = private workout at player's campus or near his home BLUE = official visit to NovaCare Complex for medical checks, interviews, play discussion, get feel of team and city, etc.; Eagles get maximum of 30 GREEN = drafted/signed as UDFA by the Eagles ************************************************************ QB Sam Hartman (Notre Dame) -- Senior Bowl QB John Rhys Plumlee (UCF) -- Hula Bowl QB Spencer Rattler (South Carolina) -- Senior Bowl QB Davius Richard (NC Central) -- Hula Bowl RB Ray Davis (Kentucky) -- Senior Bowl (formal) RB Frank Gore Jr. (Southern Mississippi) -- East-West Shrine Bowl RB Dylan Laube (New Hampshire) -- Senior Bowl RB Carson Steele (UCLA) -- East-West Shrine Bowl RB Kimani Vidal (Troy) -- Met with him at Troy's Pro Day WR Cornelius Johnson (Michigan) -- East-West Shrine Bowl WR Xavier Legette (South Carolina) -- Senior Bowl (formal) WR Ladd McConkey (Georgia) -- Senior Bowl WR Ricky Pearsall (Florida) -- Indy Combine (formal) WR Brenden Rice (USC) -- Official Visit WR Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint (Georgia) -- Met with him at Georgia's Pro Day WR Ainias Smith (Texas A&M) -- Official Visit WR Devontez Walker (North Carolina) -- Senior Bowl WR Malik Washington (Virginia) -- Met with him at Virginia's Pro Day WR Johnny Wilson (Florida State) -- Official Visit WR Roman Wilson (Michigan) -- Senior Bowl WR Xavier Worthy (Texas) -- Indy Combine (formal), Aaron Moorehead at Texas' Pro Day TE Cam Grandy (Illinois State) -- Hula Bowl TE Mason Pline (Furman) -- Hula Bowl, East-West Shrine Bowl TE J'Tavion Sanders (Texas) -- Indy Combine OT Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) -- Indy Combine (formal) OT Troy Fautanu (Washington) -- Official Visit OT Garret Greenfield (South Dakota State) -- T.J. Paganetti put him through drills at South Dakota State's Pro Day OT Tyler Guyton (Oklahoma) -- Senior Bowl, Official Visit OT Michael Jerrell (Findlay) -- Hula Bowl OT Jordan Morgan (Arizona) -- Indy Combine (formal) OT Patrick Paul (Houston) -- Senior Bowl (formal) OT Roger Rosengarten (Washington) -- Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit OT/OG Brandon Coleman (TCU) -- Official Visit OG Cooper Beebe (Kansas State) -- Official Visit OG Christian Haynes (Connecticut) -- Indy Combine (formal) OG Christian Mahogany (Boston College) -- East-West Shrine Bowl, Official Visit (CANCELLED) OG Mason McCormick (South Dakota State) -- T.J. Paganetti put him through drills at South Dakota State's Pro Day OG Zak Zinter (Michigan) -- Official Visit C Jackson Powers-Johnson (Oregon) -- Senior Bowl ********** DL Khristian Boyd (Northern Iowa) -- Virtual Visit, Official Visit DL Marshawn Kneeland (Western Michigan) -- Senior Bowl (formal), Official Visit DL T'Vondre Sweat (Texas) -- Senior Bowl (formal) EDGE Adisa Isaac (Penn State) -- Senior Bowl EDGE Brennan Jackson (Washington State) -- Senior Bowl, Indy Combine EDGE Cedric Johnson (Mississippi) -- Senior Bowl EDGE Laiatu Latu (UCLA) -- Senior Bowl (formal), Official Visit EDGE Chop Robinson (Penn State) -- Official Visit EDGE Darius Robinson (Missouri) -- Senior Bowl LB Swayze Bozeman (Southern Mississippi) -- Met with him (Pro Day? Other?) LB Edgerrin Cooper (Texas A&M) -- East-West Shrine Bowl, Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit LB Cedric Gray (North Carolina) -- Senior Bowl LB Jontrey Hunter (Georgia State) -- Senior Bowl, LB coaches at Georgia State Pro Day LB Jordan Magee (Temple) -- Interest LB Trezmen Marshall (Alabama) -- East-West Shrine Bowl LB Winston Reid (Weber State) -- Hula Bowl LB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. (Clemson) -- Indy Combine (formal) LB Trevin Wallace (Kentucky) -- Official Visit CB Terrion Arnold (Alabama) -- Indy Combine (formal) CB Jarvis Brownlee Jr. (Louisville) -- Senior Bowl CB Caelen Carson (Wake Forest) -- Official Visit CB Cooper DeJean (Iowa) -- Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit CB Myles Harden (South Dakota) -- Senior Bowl CB Jarrian Jones (Florida State) -- Official Visit CB Kool-Aid McKinstry (Alabama) -- Indy Combine (formal) CB Quinyon Mitchell (Toledo) -- Senior Bowl CB Andru Phillips (Kentucky) -- Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit CB Nate Wiggins (Clemson) -- Indy Combine (formal) S Cole Bishop (Utah) -- Senior Bowl, Joe Kasper at Utah's Pro Day S Kamren Kinchens (Miami, FL) -- Senior Bowl S Tyler Nubin (Minnesota) -- Indy Combine (formal) S Sione Vaki (Utah) -- Indy Combine (formal), Joe Kasper at Utah's Pro Day DB Storm Duck (Louisville) -- Hula Bowl DB Shon Stephens (Ferris State) -- Met with him (Pro Day? Other?) DB Reddy Steward (Weber State) -- Hula Bowl P Tory Taylor (Iowa) -- Senior Bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4for4PhillyFan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said: thats not even close to a comprehensive list. it appears walterfootball is not even good for that. PURPLE = met at Indy Combine TEAL = private workout at player's campus or near his home BLUE = official visit to NovaCare Complex for medical checks, interviews, play discussion, get feel of team and city, etc.; Eagles get maximum of 30 GREEN = drafted/signed as UDFA by the Eagles ************************************************************ QB Sam Hartman (Notre Dame) -- Senior Bowl QB John Rhys Plumlee (UCF) -- Hula Bowl QB Spencer Rattler (South Carolina) -- Senior Bowl QB Davius Richard (NC Central) -- Hula Bowl RB Ray Davis (Kentucky) -- Senior Bowl (formal) RB Frank Gore Jr. (Southern Mississippi) -- East-West Shrine Bowl RB Dylan Laube (New Hampshire) -- Senior Bowl RB Carson Steele (UCLA) -- East-West Shrine Bowl RB Kimani Vidal (Troy) -- Met with him at Troy's Pro Day WR Cornelius Johnson (Michigan) -- East-West Shrine Bowl WR Xavier Legette (South Carolina) -- Senior Bowl (formal) WR Ladd McConkey (Georgia) -- Senior Bowl WR Ricky Pearsall (Florida) -- Indy Combine (formal) WR Brenden Rice (USC) -- Official Visit WR Marcus Rosemy-Jacksaint (Georgia) -- Met with him at Georgia's Pro Day WR Ainias Smith (Texas A&M) -- Official Visit WR Devontez Walker (North Carolina) -- Senior Bowl WR Malik Washington (Virginia) -- Met with him at Virginia's Pro Day WR Johnny Wilson (Florida State) -- Official Visit WR Roman Wilson (Michigan) -- Senior Bowl WR Xavier Worthy (Texas) -- Indy Combine (formal), Aaron Moorehead at Texas' Pro Day TE Cam Grandy (Illinois State) -- Hula Bowl TE Mason Pline (Furman) -- Hula Bowl, East-West Shrine Bowl TE J'Tavion Sanders (Texas) -- Indy Combine OT Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) -- Indy Combine (formal) OT Troy Fautanu (Washington) -- Official Visit OT Garret Greenfield (South Dakota State) -- T.J. Paganetti put him through drills at South Dakota State's Pro Day OT Tyler Guyton (Oklahoma) -- Senior Bowl, Official Visit OT Michael Jerrell (Findlay) -- Hula Bowl OT Jordan Morgan (Arizona) -- Indy Combine (formal) OT Patrick Paul (Houston) -- Senior Bowl (formal) OT Roger Rosengarten (Washington) -- Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit OT/OG Brandon Coleman (TCU) -- Official Visit OG Cooper Beebe (Kansas State) -- Official Visit OG Christian Haynes (Connecticut) -- Indy Combine (formal) OG Christian Mahogany (Boston College) -- East-West Shrine Bowl, Official Visit (CANCELLED) OG Mason McCormick (South Dakota State) -- T.J. Paganetti put him through drills at South Dakota State's Pro Day OG Zak Zinter (Michigan) -- Official Visit C Jackson Powers-Johnson (Oregon) -- Senior Bowl ********** DL Khristian Boyd (Northern Iowa) -- Virtual Visit, Official Visit DL Marshawn Kneeland (Western Michigan) -- Senior Bowl (formal), Official Visit DL T'Vondre Sweat (Texas) -- Senior Bowl (formal) EDGE Adisa Isaac (Penn State) -- Senior Bowl EDGE Brennan Jackson (Washington State) -- Senior Bowl, Indy Combine EDGE Cedric Johnson (Mississippi) -- Senior Bowl EDGE Laiatu Latu (UCLA) -- Senior Bowl (formal), Official Visit EDGE Chop Robinson (Penn State) -- Official Visit EDGE Darius Robinson (Missouri) -- Senior Bowl LB Swayze Bozeman (Southern Mississippi) -- Met with him (Pro Day? Other?) LB Edgerrin Cooper (Texas A&M) -- East-West Shrine Bowl, Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit LB Cedric Gray (North Carolina) -- Senior Bowl LB Jontrey Hunter (Georgia State) -- Senior Bowl, LB coaches at Georgia State Pro Day LB Jordan Magee (Temple) -- Interest LB Trezmen Marshall (Alabama) -- East-West Shrine Bowl LB Winston Reid (Weber State) -- Hula Bowl LB Jeremiah Trotter Jr. (Clemson) -- Indy Combine (formal) LB Trevin Wallace (Kentucky) -- Official Visit CB Terrion Arnold (Alabama) -- Indy Combine (formal) CB Jarvis Brownlee Jr. (Louisville) -- Senior Bowl CB Caelen Carson (Wake Forest) -- Official Visit CB Cooper DeJean (Iowa) -- Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit CB Myles Harden (South Dakota) -- Senior Bowl CB Jarrian Jones (Florida State) -- Official Visit CB Kool-Aid McKinstry (Alabama) -- Indy Combine (formal) CB Quinyon Mitchell (Toledo) -- Senior Bowl CB Andru Phillips (Kentucky) -- Indy Combine (formal), Official Visit CB Nate Wiggins (Clemson) -- Indy Combine (formal) S Cole Bishop (Utah) -- Senior Bowl, Joe Kasper at Utah's Pro Day S Kamren Kinchens (Miami, FL) -- Senior Bowl S Tyler Nubin (Minnesota) -- Indy Combine (formal) S Sione Vaki (Utah) -- Indy Combine (formal), Joe Kasper at Utah's Pro Day DB Storm Duck (Louisville) -- Hula Bowl DB Shon Stephens (Ferris State) -- Met with him (Pro Day? Other?) DB Reddy Steward (Weber State) -- Hula Bowl P Tory Taylor (Iowa) -- Senior Bowl TLDR……holy highlight edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, 4for4PhillyFan said: TLDR……holy highlight edition. I see its pretty hard to read. I copy and pasted it from the EMB. If I posted in plain text I was afraid I might lose the color coded aspect of it. But to read it easier anyone can just copy and paste it in black and white. Its worth a look for people interested in visits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Make that two more guys who don't like DeJean as a corner in Sam Monson and Chris Simms. Looking forward to hearing what Cosell and Fran Duffy have to say about him. That's probably like 80% of "experts" I've heard say he's not a corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 4 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Make that two more guys who don't like DeJean as a corner in Sam Monson and Chris Simms. Looking forward to hearing what Cosell and Fran Duffy have to say about him. That's probably like 80% of "experts" I've heard say he's not a corner. Simms likes to be different. I dont really think his opinions hold much weight. I think DeJean is a CB. And I think he can be a fine CB despite what scouts perceive as some hip stiffness. a la Patrick Peterson. Had a fine career while not being the most fluid mover for the position. But I do think when you pay attention to his highlight plays, if its not a pick 6, most of his other highlights are coming off blitzing. His ability to play the run, and play close to the box probably means he is best maximized closer to the action- at nickel CB. That should not be taken as "he needs to be a nickel", or he needs to be a safety. He doesnt "need" a position change. He can do anything. Its just looking at what he does well and determining where that is best utilized. He will cover good WRs just fine outside, but youre not going to get as much of his instincts, physicality, and blitzing ability if you have him out on the boundary. I take him as a CB and have him at nickel day 1. The flexibility it gives us in coverages knowing if his slot WR motions to the other side, CJ can rotate down and cover him man to man, while DeJean backs up in to the safety position. Just being able to rotate like that and stay in coverages, or flip it regardless of how an offense wants to motion is a very appealing possibility. Something that a different nickel like Sainristil doesnt give you. I put him at nickel but almost never take him off the field. If a team wants to go with 2 TEs instead, bring Blankenship down in to the box as the defacto WILL. He can play the run just fine, or match up against a TE in zone. Gardner-Johnson and DeJean become your safeties on that play. You play a ton of nickel whether there are 3 WRs or not. The versatility of DeJean and CJ to play nickel or S, as well as Blankenship's ability to play S/LB hybrid role allow you to match up with a lot of different groupings without changing personnel. And kind of hides the fact that we dont have very good LBs. This is why DeJean is my top guy at 22. And probably even would be if we were picking a bit higher. No one else offers this type of multi-factoral impact. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 40 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Make that two more guys who don't like DeJean as a corner in Sam Monson and Chris Simms. Looking forward to hearing what Cosell and Fran Duffy have to say about him. That's probably like 80% of "experts" I've heard say he's not a corner. Calling Chris Simms an expert is extremely generous. Guy is a hot take artist and nothing more. DeJean is a CB. He can also be a safety if you really want him to be one, but I think that is a massive misuse of his talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4for4PhillyFan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 46 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Make that two more guys who don't like DeJean as a corner in Sam Monson and Chris Simms. Looking forward to hearing what Cosell and Fran Duffy have to say about him. That's probably like 80% of "experts" I've heard say he's not a corner. Too stiff in the hips. Safety all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said: Simms likes to be different. I dont really think his opinions hold much weight. I think DeJean is a CB. And I think he can be a fine CB despite what scouts perceive as some hip stiffness. a la Patrick Peterson. Had a fine career while not being the most fluid mover for the position. But I do think when you pay attention to his highlight plays, if its not a pick 6, most of his other highlights are coming off blitzing. His ability to play the run, and play close to the box probably means he is best maximized closer to the action- at nickel CB. That should not be taken as "he needs to be a nickel", or he needs to be a safety. He doesnt "need" a position change. He can do anything. Its just looking at what he does well and determining where that is best utilized. He will cover good WRs just fine outside, but youre not going to get as much of his instincts, physicality, and blitzing ability if you have him out on the boundary. I take him as a CB and have him at nickel day 1. The flexibility it gives us in coverages knowing if his slot WR motions to the other side, CJ can rotate down and cover him man to man, while DeJean backs up in to the safety position. Just being able to rotate like that and stay in coverages, or flip it regardless of how an offense wants to motion is a very appealing possibility. Something that a different nickel like Sainristil doesnt give you. I put him at nickel but almost never take him off the field. If a team wants to go with 2 TEs instead, bring Blankenship down in to the box as the defacto WILL. He can play the run just fine, or match up against a TE in zone. Gardner-Johnson and DeJean become your safeties on that play. You play a ton of nickel whether there are 3 WRs or not. The versatility of DeJean and CJ to play nickel or S, as well as Blankenship's ability to play S/LB hybrid role allow you to match up with a lot of different groupings without changing personnel. And kind of hides the fact that we dont have very good LBs. This is why DeJean is my top guy at 22. And probably even would be if we were picking a bit higher. No one else offers this type of multi-factoral impact. Agreed on Simms. I just think my biggest thing, and this might just be a me thing, but I'm looking at pure outside corner on our roster and I have too many questions. Even Slay as CB1 for us is a question. CB2 is a question. Replacing Slay eventually as CB1 is a question. There's all these questions, for a team that is in a pretty wide super bowl window, at both CB spots. And really none of these questions have comfortable solutions. Did Ringo show some promise last year? Sure he did and I am fine with him being in the mixture of the solution, but he's a small ingredient for a team in a super bowl window with a massive hole at CB2, and who might be without a CB1 for a true contender. I bring all of this up because I really feel this team needs a true pure outside CB, and I'm just not sure that DeJean provides us with that. Obviously you have Arnold and Mitchell, but hell I'd probably feel better about taking Wiggins, McKinstry or Rakestraw over Coop at their appropriate value slots, solely based on their ability to play true outside CB. I'm probably overthinking DeJean, as well as taking all of the "expert" opinions too literal. But it just bugs me how infrequently he's being viewed as a legitimate outside CB. Which is exactly what this team needs for now and the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 5 minutes ago, AZ_Eaglesfan said: Calling Chris Simms an expert is extremely generous. Guy is a hot take artist and nothing more. DeJean is a CB. He can also be a safety if you really want him to be one, but I think that is a massive misuse of his talents. Yes which is why I used the quotations. But he's surely not the only one out there who believes this notion. He sure looks like a CB to me as well. But all these evaluations from these analysts give me pause as to what I'm seeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 51 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Make that two more guys who don't like DeJean as a corner in Sam Monson and Chris Simms. Looking forward to hearing what Cosell and Fran Duffy have to say about him. That's probably like 80% of "experts" I've heard say he's not a corner. Chris Simms saying he doesn't like some like a guy just confirms to me that they'll be a future stud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HazletonEagle Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 minute ago, EagleBlueDon said: Agreed on Simms. I just think my biggest thing, and this might just be a me thing, but I'm looking at pure outside corner on our roster and I have too many questions. Even Slay as CB1 for us is a question. CB2 is a question. Replacing Slay eventually as CB1 is a question. There's all these questions, for a team that is in a pretty wide super bowl window, at both CB spots. And really none of these questions have comfortable solutions. Did Ringo show some promise last year? Sure he did and I am fine with him being in the mixture of the solution, but he's a small ingredient for a team in a super bowl window with a massive hole at CB2, and who might be without a CB1 for a true contender. I bring all of this up because I really feel this team needs a true pure outside CB, and I'm just not sure that DeJean provides us with that. Obviously you have Arnold and Mitchell, but hell I'd probably feel better about taking Wiggins, McKinstry or Rakestraw over Coop at their appropriate value slots, solely based on their ability to play true outside CB. I'm probably overthinking DeJean, as well as taking all of the "expert" opinions too literal. But it just bugs me how infrequently he's being viewed as a legitimate outside CB. Which is exactly what this team needs for now and the future. I think with our roster as it is right now, he starts at nickel this year. I also think in year 2, if you need him to play outside, he can do that and be a star. But I think you want his skillset in the slot to best utilize his talents. I brought up Patrick Peterson because the same commentary existed during his run up to the draft. He was a straight line athlete who didnt flip his hips smoothly and plenty of people thought he might transition to safety. He didnt. Perhaps he was slightly overrated as a CB in the NFL based on his name value from college. BUT, he was pretty darn good and Id take that career for a 1st round CB any day. Really think he is a pretty good comp for DeJean as far as CBs with a little bit of questions about their fluidity. But they are good enough. Not everyone is a malcolm jenkins. Sometimes guys with some tightness can still thrive outside. Its also worth noting that in our defense, one CB plays more man, and the other CB plays more zone. Again, I think DeJean can be just fine outside in either role. But if you replace Bradberry with him, hes a star playing zone and reading the QB. His instincts to cover his man, and know when to undercut a different route of another player nearby.... Its not as if we draft him and playing him outside means he is on an island all day every day. Thats Slay's job. Its not what Bradberry did. When Bradberry did that, he lost. But when Bradberry got to play his zone, he was fine. DeJean can play that role, and also not lose like Bradberry did when he had to play some man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ_Eaglesfan Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 2 minutes ago, EagleBlueDon said: Yes which is why I used the quotations. But he's surely not the only one out there who believes this notion. He sure looks like a CB to me as well. But all these evaluations from these analysts give me pause as to what I'm seeing. Idk I watched him and I simply don't see these red flags that people bring up. I think he is plenty fluid and he has all the athletic traits to be successful. He is also a playmaker who can jump routes and has great instincts with the ball in his hands. I swear with DeJean a lot of the discourse about him not being able to play CB is simply because he is white lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 7 hours ago, EagleBlueDon said: Haven't they met with DeJean? DeJean is a top 30 visit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasperX22 Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 1 hour ago, EagleBlueDon said: Make that two more guys who don't like DeJean as a corner in Sam Monson and Chris Simms. Looking forward to hearing what Cosell and Fran Duffy have to say about him. That's probably like 80% of "experts" I've heard say he's not a corner. If I've learned nothing in life, it's to do the exact opposite of what Chriss Simms says haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleBlueDon Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 58 minutes ago, CasperX22 said: If I've learned nothing in life, it's to do the exact opposite of what Chriss Simms says haha. Right. Was just bringing him up to add to the collection of people who keep saying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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