vike daddy Posted May 8 Author Share Posted May 8 On 5/6/2024 at 6:09 AM, swede700 said: It happened so infrequently after other rules changes, it hadn't really been a thing for a decade, so I won't miss it at all. oh c'mon, these were great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 12 Author Share Posted May 12 Sean Payton: “The two deep backs are going to have to have good ball skills, a little bit of a shortstop, third baseman, if you will, because we’re not just going to get these easy to catch high kicks anymore. We’re going to get these shots in the gaps, if you will. If it gets through our group and into the end zone, we’re on the 20-yard line. If it goes out of bounds, obviously we’re on the 40, or if it’s short. So I think it creates a unique skillset for the returners.” “Then I do think the coverage and blocking units will get a little bit bigger because we’re reducing the amount of space we’re running in. But from a scheme standpoint then, I think it’ll be — I don’t know what the average touchdown — it’s been a while — but you might get a couple a year per team. You’re going to get double-digit touchdown returns throughout the league. You’re going to see a lot more plays, and I think that was the intention of the rule.” https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/sean-payton-envisions-a-lot-more-plays-and-touchdowns-from-new-kickoff Payton sort of blabbers without saying much of merit, doesn't he? probably likes the sound of his own voice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VikeManDan Posted May 13 Share Posted May 13 22 hours ago, vike daddy said: Payton sort of blabbers without saying much of merit, doesn't he? Eh, I think he vocalizes what the new kickoffs could bring and sheds some light on how his Broncos will try and adapt. That's the most I've read from a coach about how the new kickoff rules will impact those units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 27 Author Share Posted May 27 Vikings Special Teams Coordinator Matt Daniels spoke with Twin Cities media members on Tuesday after Minnesota's second of 10 voluntary scheduled Organized Team Activity practices. Daniels pointed to the reduction in territory a kicking team needs to run to reach the returner as something that could impact the players selected to cover kicks and the way the team will practice those plays. Daniels: "The personnel is going to be huge in terms of who you can put out there. Now it's more close-proximity, close-quarter combat, and you don't have to worry about those guys running down, taking breath away from them their first defensive snap, but you've really got to turn the focus to the guys who can defeat blocks at the end of the day because of that proximity of the block only being 5 yards away." "Another aspect of it is, the value of a returner now skyrockets, and you know, you might even have to have multiple returners back there based on what type of ball is being kicked. Or you can have one back there. So it'll be interesting to see how coaches decide across the league, how they want to kind of go about that whether there's one or two, but the value of a returner significantly increases. You want to have a plethora of those guys back there who can do it, who you can trust to do it, and who can be dangerous with the ball in their hands." "We're all new to this, and it's the teaching phase of it. You have to be very specific, and focusing on one phase at a time, because it's so many different nuances … from a kickoff standpoint, formation standpoint, from a kickoff return standpoint. You kind of have to have a day where we're solely focusing on kickoff and a day where we're solely focusing on kickoff return, just because there's so many nuances that's built into the new rule." "You've really got to put your coaching hat on and really get to get to work, so I'm excited about it. And obviously there's gonna be some things that you might not like about it, some things you're gonna love about it, but you'll work through it. It's just a one-year trial. So we'll see how it goes." As far as practicing, Daniels is able to squeeze in more reps per practice because there's so much less yardage for players to run, but there's so much new material to cover. https://www.vikings.com/news/nfl-kickoff-rule-2024-change-new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelKing728 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 https://x.com/DustBaker/status/1795463380318261738?t=dvGi4xWoyBIzh16rk8V6qA&s=19 Maybe someday the football gods will not hate us lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 30 Author Share Posted May 30 The Chiefs, like all teams, are trying to figure out how to handle the new kickoff rules. Unlike most teams, the Chiefs have a non-kicker who can kick. Chiefs special-teams coordinator Dave Toub told reporters on Thursday that the Chiefs might use safety Justin Reid as the kickoff specialist, given the likelihood that the kicker will be involved in making a tackle. Toub said that, in the XFL, kickers made the tackle 25 to 40 percent of the time. Toub said they’re working on kickoff and kickoff return every day. On the kicking side, the goal is to get the ball on the ground in the landing zone before it’s touched, because the players can begin to pursue the ball. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dave-toub-chiefs-might-use-justin-reid-as-kickoff-specialist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 2 minutes ago, vike daddy said: The Chiefs, like all teams, are trying to figure out how to handle the new kickoff rules. Unlike most teams, the Chiefs have a non-kicker who can kick. Chiefs special-teams coordinator Dave Toub told reporters on Thursday that the Chiefs might use safety Justin Reid as the kickoff specialist, given the likelihood that the kicker will be involved in making a tackle. Toub said that, in the XFL, kickers made the tackle 25 to 40 percent of the time. Toub said they’re working on kickoff and kickoff return every day. On the kicking side, the goal is to get the ball on the ground in the landing zone before it’s touched, because the players can begin to pursue the ball. https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dave-toub-chiefs-might-use-justin-reid-as-kickoff-specialist That's actually quite awesome. Their kicker can take a play off and go make himself a sandwich. Edited May 30 by wcblack34 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cearbhall Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 1 hour ago, vike daddy said: On the kicking side, the goal is to get the ball on the ground in the landing zone before it’s touched, because the players can begin to pursue the ball. Just like that, we went from hang time being desirable to hangtime being a detriment. Now the team needs to find a guy that can get it on the ground in the landing zone as quickly as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heimdallr Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 4 hours ago, Cearbhall said: Just like that, we went from hang time being desirable to hangtime being a detriment. Now the team needs to find a guy that can get it on the ground in the landing zone as quickly as possible. Sounds like they need a soccer player Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted May 31 Author Share Posted May 31 11 minutes ago, Heimdallr said: Sounds like they need a soccer player you know they did, my man. you know they did.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted June 2 Author Share Posted June 2 Browns special teams coordinator Bubba Ventrone has been spending significant time during the offseason on strategies and tactics related to the NFL’s new kickoff rule. But until he sees his players blocking and tackling at full speed, he won’t be sure what works and what doesn’t. Ventrone says training camp, when full contact is allowed, will be when they really get a feel for the new kickoff rule: “I know that throughout training camp once we get the pads on, there’s definitely going to be some trial-and-error things that we’re going to mess around with. I know to your point, like the preseason you’re not going to want to show too much, but you’re still going to have to see things and I think you’re going to see more than you think in the preseason. I do. And I think for us . . . being able to have the joint practice against Minnesota will be really helpful for us. And when we practice it and I plan on going at it a good bit in training camp, we’re going to have to practice hard and we’re going to practice it a lot. So, we have to be on top of it and be ready for it.” https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/browns-eager-to-test-new-kickoff-rule-once-the-pads-are-on-in-training-camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted June 5 Author Share Posted June 5 Rams special teams coordinator Chase Blackburn says the job of a kickoff returner under the NFL’s new kickoff rule is a lot like the job of a center fielder in baseball. Blackburn said he anticipates that the Rams and the teams they play against will make their kickoffs more like line drives and go for less hang time under the new kickoff rule, on the theory that they don’t want opposing returners to have enough time to settle under the ball and get a running start. That means a returner has to be able to judge where the ball is going as soon as it’s off the kicker’s foot, and adjust accordingly. Blackburn: “There’s definitely some variables there: Do you want the smaller, faster guy? From a returner perspective, one of the things that we really try to identify is guys like center fielders, that can cover a lot of ground, have a great jump off the bat. As soon as it hits the foot, where is that initial takeoff? Because instead of a 4.2-second hang, you’re probably going to average around a two-second hang time now. Because it’s more advantageous for a kickoff team to get it up and down as soon as possible, not let that returner camp out and catch it on the run.” https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/rams-want-their-kickoff-returners-to-play-like-center-fielders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wcblack34 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 The new kickoff is one of the things I'm most excited about this year. I wonder if College will adopt it in the coming years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 K Justin Tucker: “My initial reaction was you’ve got to be positive about it and think about it in terms of this is going to keep the play in the game. It’s not just going to keep the play in the game; it’s going to be a lot more exciting. I think there’s going to be a lot more action." "Hell yeah I want to be out there [to potentially tackle]! Any chance I get to be on the field, living out my childhood dream — wherever, whenever that is, I’m going to make sure I’m ready to go and put the best product on the field I possibly can. It’s one of those things that just comes naturally. If you’re a ballplayer, you stick your nose in there. I don’t think it’s something that is necessarily encouraged. But it’s not discouraged either. It just comes with the territory. It’s a football play. We’re all football players out there.” https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/justin-tucker-excited-about-new-kickoff-rule-ready-to-tackle-when-needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vike daddy Posted June 7 Author Share Posted June 7 Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel: “I think it opens up your roster because the lack of distance or the reduction of distance for the coverage teams makes it less substantial of an investment overall. So it may be guys that traditionally have been starters on defense or starters on offense, I think it gives you more flexibility to get starters on that unit for various reasons. Overall, it wouldn’t shock me if, shoot, every No. 1 receiver and every No. 1 running back in the league is raising their hands to return kicks Week 4.” https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/mike-mcdaniel-wont-shock-me-if-no-1-receivers-backs-want-to-return-kicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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