Tank4Drake Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) Didn't have one last year but this is usually a thread I like to make after Week 4 and update quarterly (Week 8, 13, 18). My Top 5 MVP after four games: 1. QB Jayden Daniels Team Record 3-1 3 Passing TD's, 1 INT's, 5 Rushing TD's, 82% COMP, 8.5 YPA, 897 Passing Yards, 218 Rushing Yards. #2 in EPA/att and #2 in success rate. Highest Completion % through 4 games in NFL History. 2. QB Sam Darnold Team Record 4-0 11 Passing TD's, 3 INT's, 0 Rushing TD's, 69% COMP, 8.8 YPA, 932 Passing Yards. 3. QB Josh Allen Team Record 3-1 7 Passing TD's, 0 INT's, 2 Rushing TD's, 75% COMP, 8.8 YPA, 634 Passing Yards, 85 Rushing Yards. 4. QB Baker Mayfield Team Record 3-1 8 Passing TD's, 2 INT's, 2 Rushing TD's, 71% COMP, 7.5 YPA, 984 Passing Yards. 5. WR Nico Collins Team Record 3-1 30 REC, 489 yards, 16.9 YPR, 2 TD's. On pace for well over 2,000 yards receiving. Best WR on the season so far and it's not even remotely close IMO. And he's doing this with insane competition with Diggs and Dell. Edited September 30 by Tank4Drake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmad Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 It's about time we talked about Josh Allen as an MVP caliber QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 JD is top 5 but 2 is way too generous he only has 8 total td and he has been rushing but he isn’t Lamar running which is a good thing we don’t want him to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Well this thread's rankings are already aging like stale milk, so there's that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 Allen has been downgraded to #3 after tonight’s performance. The Top 3 are all still close though IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 44 minutes ago, Vladimir L said: JD is top 5 but 2 is way too generous he only has 8 total td and he has been rushing but he isn’t Lamar running which is a good thing we don’t want him to run MVP is not a bulk stats award, it’s an efficiency award that takes into account Team Win-Loss Record, YPA, Passer Rating. Total TD-INT Ratio is a huge driving factor of the award, along with being on a playoff team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir L Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 8 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: MVP is not a bulk stats award, it’s an efficiency award that takes into account Team Win-Loss Record, YPA, Passer Rating. Total TD-INT Ratio is a huge driving factor of the award, along with being on a playoff team. He is the most efficient qb I’ve ever seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 (edited) Bulk stats is never a good thing for MVP. IMO here are the ingredients that decide it every year: 1) Need to finish as a playoff team. Some people think this needs to be a Top 2 seed, but no it doesn’t. Any playoff team will work. 2) Total TD-INT Ratio. This includes both Passing/Rushing together. 3) Passer Rating 4) COMP % 5) YPA Looking at the history of the award, these are the most crucial components. A RB or WR that finishes over 2,000 yards with no record-setting QB is also eligible for the award. Bulk Stats really don’t matter. Right now I feel it’s pretty close between Daniels and Darnold but I give it to Daniels. I feel like there is some stigma because Daniels is a Rookie and people are leaning Darnold because of that stigma. Edited September 30 by Tank4Drake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitanSlim Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Not saying he'll keep it up and the Ravens record is currently holding him back but....... Derrick Henry is on pace for another 2000 yard season and over 20 rushing TDs. It's a better chance he'd be OPOY than MVP but still a darkhorse, longshot MVP candidate to monitor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFlaccoSeagulls Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 6 minutes ago, TitanSlim said: Not saying he'll keep it up and the Ravens record is currently holding him back but....... Derrick Henry is on pace for another 2000 yard season and over 20 rushing TDs. It's a better chance he'd be OPOY than MVP but still a darkhorse, longshot MVP candidate to monitor. No shot he's an MVP candidate with Lamar in the same offense. I'd say either one of them could be a contender for OPOY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Lamar has looked like an MVP candidate the last two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 21 minutes ago, Tank4Drake said: Bulk stats is never a good thing for MVP. IMO here are the ingredients that decide it every year: 1) Need to finish as a playoff team. Some people think this needs to be a Top 2 seed, but no it doesn’t. Any playoff team will work. 2) Total TD-INT Ratio. This includes both Passing/Rushing together. 3) Passer Rating 4) COMP % 5) YPA Looking at the history of the award, these are the most crucial components. A RB or WR that finishes over 2,000 yards with no record-setting QB is also eligible for the award. Bulk Stats really don’t matter. Right now I feel it’s pretty close between Daniels and Darnold but I give it to Daniels. I feel like there is some stigma because Daniels is a Rookie and people are leaning Darnold because of that stigma. Basically every MVP in modern NFL history won 13+ games during the season they won the award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceinthehouse Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 It's early, but what a ride for the first 4 weeks. I saw this stat & about fell out of my chair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Basically every MVP in modern NFL history won 13+ games during the season they won the award. Because those were ironically the most efficient players. If they had won 10 games, they still would have won it. AP was the most efficient player in 2012 and his team only had ten wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tank4Drake Posted September 30 Author Share Posted September 30 1 minute ago, aceinthehouse said: It's early, but what a ride for the first 4 weeks. I saw this stat & about fell out of my chair. This is an amazing stat…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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