Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Packerraymond said: Firing your successful GM right before an NFL Draft because he's making the moves he was hire to do sounds like the messiest thing a president can do?? You're contradicting yourself. You just don't get it. Gute wouldn't have to be fired if Rodgers demands to stay because he's not going to throw a fit or take a stand against it. Gute accepted the job without reservation with full knowledge he didn't have the power enjoyed by his predecessors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 A GM with the power y'all are wishcasting on Gute right now would have had his personal 1st round QB leading the team by now if it was solely up to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Lol. Gute doesn’t have the power to trade Rodgers. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Mr Anonymous said: Same reply as the post above to Raymond. The Packers are NOT going to get messy. Where your confusion lies is in the definition of messy. This would not be "messy" at all. It's good business. It was very bad biz to give Lord Rodgers that bloated overpaid contract with the power that came with it. Can't undo that now, but it is time to get back on the right track. Grow some balls and do what is right for the team. By doing my above if it comes to that. Players are not the only ones who can play hard ball, and what I present is simply reality. You do NOT, especially at this point but never should have in the past, allow Lord Rodgers to dictate terms. His is but a bit piece and melting fast Edited February 28, 2023 by 15412 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Just now, Outpost31 said: Lol. Gute doesn’t have the power to trade Rodgers. Lol. Not unless Rodgers wants it, no. Geesh, are you that naive to what's been going on? How many more clues do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, 15412 said: Where your confusion lies is in the definition of messy. This would not be "messy" at all. It's good business. It was very bad biz to give Lord Rodgers that bloated overpaid contract with the power that came with it. Can't undo that now, but it is time to get back on the right track. Grow some balls and do what is right for the team. By doing my above if it comes to that. Players are not the only ones who can play hard ball, and what I present is simply reality. You do NOT, especially at this point but never should have in the past, allow Lord Rodgers to dictate terms. His is bu a bit piece and melting fast Two words... Murphy / Favre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Anonymous said: Two words... Murphy / Favre 3 years after that "mess" why oh why would we ever want to be cast like that again?? Lol give me a break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Don't assume I disagree with you. I want him to request a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Packerraymond Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr Anonymous said: Don't assume I disagree with you. I want him to request a trade. In order for me to think you have something here with your info, I'd have to believe Murphy believed they made a mistake with Favre and would never want to repeat it, which couldn't be further from the truth. I'd also have to believe that now on top of the coaching autonomy he knowingly gave up, Gute's also given up roster autonomy. Essentially Gute is the Stephen Jones to Murphy's Jerry. I don't buy that either, not from someone who's core principles are from rising under Wolf and TT. He wouldn't have taken the job, he could've been GM of multiple other teams. The only way Rodgers will be back is if he agrees to a nice paycut and Love agrees to remain backup one more year, as I truly believe no one in our FO wishes to rebuild, and that they believe for 2023 Aaron gives us the better shot at the title. There's no way in hell Gute gives up Jordan for 1 year of Aaron. His entire legacy as a GM of the Packers will be set in stone at that moment, no one can be that naïve to believe (even if someone tells them) that Gute will accept that and be a puppet. If Jordan has already told Gute and the FO (since he mentioned that he communicates with Jordan and his representation often, while saying he hasn't spoken to Rodgers at all) that he's not going to report as a backup, than the decision has already been made whether Rodgers wants back or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The Packers by telling Rodg the game is no longer his to dictate will put the ball back in the hands of management where it should hav been all along.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 No Cobb, no Lewis, no Tonyan, must play within system, will have Ol Rodg shopping for new digs. Unless we make the trade with the Titans, where he's already building a new cave.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I understand people here aren't going to simply take my word for it. That's why I point to clues you all can assess for yourselves. The clue that an exception to Gute's power was made in this instance is in the contract they gave Rodgers last year. C'mon people, it's all there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15412 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 But Cobb, Lewis, Tonyan and maybe more won't be there. Along with his free will on the field. If management has joined brains with balls by now. It's all there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I get WANTING to believe the Packers hold all the cards, but it's just not reality. The team decided to go along with Rodgers desires from the top down. All Rodgers had to do in return was show some level of commitment. It carries with it the belief that Rodgers will not want to play beyond his ability to be effective, which is admittedly a gamble. But they don't believe he'd want to play after he's completely lost it. The team has handcuffed itself to a degree that they're willing to live with in order to avoid a repeat of the Favre divorce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Anonymous Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, 15412 said: But Cobb, Lewis, Tonyan and maybe more won't be there. Along with his free will on the field. If management has joined brains with balls by now. It's all there.... Bak will be there and that's the most important one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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