Packers Big Board #9

[Jaegybomb]

Do you even bother reading the stuff you quote?

[Jaegybomb]

Just now, Packerraymond said:

That's cool. Really irrelevant to anything we're discussing. Maybe if we were scouting basketball players that would be useful.

What exactly are you discussing?

[Jaegybomb]

You have been talking down to me ever since I said taller guys can physically jump higher.

[Packerraymond]

Just now, Jaegybomb said:

What exactly are you discussing?

A vertical jump. Used in the NFL to calculate explosive power, not who has the ability to reach the cookie jar on the top shelf.

[Jaegybomb]

We are talking the difference between standing reach to jumping reach. Longer legs act as longer levers and provide more force.

[Jaegybomb]

Center of mass, whatever. Being tall helps you jump higher, not just because you start higher.

[Jaegybomb]

This is the 4th time I've said the same thing.

[Jaegybomb]

When we were talking about guys jumping 3 feet did you think we meant reaching a cookie jar on a 3 foot shelf?

[Packerraymond]

Just now, Jaegybomb said:

This is the 4th time I've said the same thing.

And you're the only one who agrees with you. The highest vert at the 2017 NBA Combine was 36", you'd think all those tall basketball players would jump out of the gym then. Probably a dozen NFL guys if not more top that every year.

[Jaegybomb]

That's pretty surprising. Thanks for catching up.

[Jaegybomb]

Sample size seems like it would be quite a bit different.

[Packerraymond]

Good, we've established your vert comes from your explosive power and not your height. The strength training and power lifting the NFL players do lends more toward explosion than the S and C work of basketball players so it's not surprising the NFL guys have better numbers. NBA players need more endurance so there's no reason to put as much weight on their frames.

LVE jumped higher than Roquan Smith because he's a more explosive athlete the same way that Barkley out jumped Arden Key even though he's much shorter, because he's more explosive. Glad we've gotten here.

[Jaegybomb]

So what happens if a 6'9'' dude puts in the same explosiveness training? It's probably slightly easier for him to put up higher numbers.

[squire12]

A longer lever has the potential to provide an advantage vs a shorter lever.  Both a long and  a short lever need a force applied to said lever to exert torque around an axis of rotation to produce movement.  

Being taller does not guarantee a higher force output.

[Jaegybomb]

Obviously doesn't guarantee but it should make it slightly easier right?