pwny Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 On 4/30/2018 at 2:24 PM, Tugboat said: Calais Campbell for instance, is arguably our very best player and a huge component in the upturn of our defense last year. Expecting a guy like Taven Bryan to take over from that in a few years without missing a beat is extremely optimistic, and imo farfetched. It'd be absolutely phenomenal if it happens, but i wouldn't exactly count on it. I think you can call that a succession plan in terms of hopefully maintaining a "good" defense without too many gaping holes. I think you’re more expecting that someone like Yan develops into a player at the level of CC and that someone else develops to the level of current Yan. Or maybe you don’t get someone to CC’s level, but the progression of Yan, Jack, Bryan collectively fill that hole. And I mean the more you invest into the defense, the more chances you have at finding a real replacement for a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Our defense wont be the reason we dont win a SB the next 3 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 02/05/2018 at 12:11 PM, iPwn said: I think you’re more expecting that someone like Yan develops into a player at the level of CC and that someone else develops to the level of current Yan. Or maybe you don’t get someone to CC’s level, but the progression of Yan, Jack, Bryan collectively fill that hole. And I mean the more you invest into the defense, the more chances you have at finding a real replacement for a player. But Yan is already part of what made our defense elite. How much better is he going to get to offset the loss of arguably our best player on top of what he's already contributing? You do have to keep investing in the unit if you want to not fall off a cliff...i just think it's overly optimistic to think it's realistically not going to drop off quite a bit over the next few years even with these substantial pick investments. Especially picking so much lower, as we'll hopefully be doing. Hard to count on massive overachievers like Yan and Telvin every year to offset attrition. It's going to be so much harder to keep everything together financially too. We had the unique ability to roll over absurd masses of capspace when assembling this elite defense as is. In the coming years, we're not only going to be going without that huge advantage in flexibility to just go out and "buy" the last pieces we needed (Calais, Malik, Church, Bouye, Gipson all big money FA pickups)...we're also going to be contending with impending megadeals for our own homegrown talent like Jalen and Yan. I get wanting to keep the defense from eventually just turning into mush. But i think that has to be balanced against the idea that we're probably not going to have an opportunity to spend so freely and have the right pieces together like this to create an elite defense for a very very long time, outside of this brief window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 When do we think we need to give Yan ans Ramsey deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VLoo Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Before they become Free Agents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 5/4/2018 at 9:33 AM, VLoo said: Before they become Free Agents Thanks bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 On 5/5/2018 at 4:01 PM, .Buzz said: It very easily could just be a PR thing, but i love this dudes attitude. Said he would do whatever and the 1st thing he said was STs. Not starting but actually Its. It is nice to hear the young man got some class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaguarCrazy2832 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 6 hours ago, .Buzz said: Good stick and wraps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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