Mind Character

-------- Just got back from dropping the in-laws off at the airport after 2 weeks of non-stop in-law madness and chaos. Me and the Mrs. literally breathed the biggest sigh of relief and danced in the car. We talked about how peaceful and nice the rest of our New Years Eve and Holiday will be. Then, I check my messages when we get in the drive-way to find out that Truckstop Jimmy is on the loose doing Truckstop Jimmy Things... F-it.... F-it all... Queue the clown show music..

Volatility is a real thing. Jameis Winson is the best example of volatility as He has the highest highs but the pendulum swings to the lowest of lows. Some Stars also burn out faster than others. Lamar Jackson could be one of such players. His play-style may not be sustainable but his star may burn so bright and strong that he will win a Super Bowl and MVP before he burns out or his style of play becomes unsustainable. Josh McDaniels is likely going to be the Haslam's guy... Jimmy probably ignoring DePodesta's suggestion again if history is indicative of anything... ... the only thing to hope for if McDaniels has to be the guy is that he either has the volatility to reach high heights before the low lows or that he could burn bright enough to get the team to the brightest of days before inevitably going super nova implodes and burning everything around him down to nothingness.. ****tttttt...give me HC Brian Daboll with OC Mike LaFleur over McDaniels.

It's going to be a suspenseful ride for sure. I hope you're right. I just don't see it yet as those OLine are truly special talents. The guys that I think could realistically help push the Tackles down to us are Kristian Fulton, Tua Tagovailoa, Justin Herbert, Derrick Brown, Jerry Jeudy, CeeDee Lamb, I wouldn't risk it and would trade our 3rd to move up. I'd bet the house that no team is taking Grant Delpit top 10. I agree that some team could fall in love with Simmons, but him being a raw full-time linebacker with physicality concerns and not at a premium position likely means he goes later. Gross-Matos I actually like a lot and it will be interesting to see where teams see him especially after he blows up the combine. I think there are concerns about his effort in the scouting community and he likely a 15-30 range pick. We're in striking range. So close... I hope we're not so close but so far.

At least 5 teams (not including Washington) have serious Tackle issues before we pick. It's also likely that Thomas, Wirfs, and Wills will be the top player on the board when they pick: To me, it's actually very llikely that Thomas, WIlls, and Wirfs are gone before our pick and we have to trade up to make sure we get one. Those teams are: 1.) New York Giants (have nothing at Tackle and a new QB1 and Barkley; Gettleman loves Lineman), 2.) Chargers (Had arguably the worst OLine in the league this year and swinging doors at Tackle) 3.) Arizona Cardinals (Tackles were trash and they have to protect Kyler Murray) 4.) Miami Dolphins (traded away Tunsil), 5.) Panthers (Greg Little struggled, but even if they stay with him they have nothingness at the other Tackle and it killed their season) 6.) Lions (Ricky Wagner is thought to be a cap casualty this off-season)

What a time.. Trade-down most likely, but many believe Okudah is better than Lattimore and Ward by a clean margin. Greedy Williams is a nice prospect but he's not that at all. Denzel Ward can't stay healthy. It wouldn't be optimal but an elite CB1 who's bigger, stronger, and a better tackler wouldn't be a wasted pick. Like I said though, it could telegraph a trade down. I agree.... Team Trade down in that case... CeeDee is on that crazy level though... we could do a lot worse Buttcheeks.. One of the most overrated players in the draft... a whiffs artist and miss tackle connoisseur. Short armed/no length, has limited ability to range and disrupt the pass... plays with tremendous energy and competitive fire. Bad eyes and mental diagnosing of pass and run. A strong safety exclusively with tackling and box support issues and none of the pass disruption upside. Great character, goes all out, great leader by all accounts. Not a top 10 pick. Late 1st to mid 2nd is more realistic even then you have a starting SS with intangibles but will be a liability in an isolated matchup league.

No, Shanny is not firing his current Assistant Head Coach or changing his position. Kyle Shanahan is not giving up play-calling at this point in his Head Coaching career. That is both according to 49ers beat writers and Kyle Shanahan himself. Therefore, if LaFleur and McDaniel want to call plays full time right away they'll have to leave. Also, LaFleur is the more likely one over McDaniel to get full-time OC or HC looks as McDaniel's substance abuse issues will likely give people pause. A likely scenario is that Saleh gets approval to make LaFleur and not McDaniel his OC or LaFleur gets a full time OC job elsewhere leaving McDaniel to be the one remaining with Shanahan to possibly get a change in title.

Joe Thomas on the ThomaHawk podcast said he spoke to Mitchell Schwartz, Cam Erving, and Andrew Wylie about Bienemy. They said he was more of a "Rah Rah" guy. Joe Thomas then artfully spoke about Bienemy but it sounded like his former teammates didn't give the most glowing endorsement of him as Joe offered no other positives and didn't affirm Andrew Hawkins positive opinion of Bienemy. Not saying that if that's the case it should drive our decision-making on Bienemy or anything like that. The possible good of Bienemy is that he holds players acountable and it could mean that Mike Kafka comes with him as QB Coach and OC. I wouldn't hire him though because it would be another first time HC/OC. Bienemy is also not known to have an all that impressive programmatic plan as was reported by people familiar with his Jets interview last year.

As long as LaFleur's position is outright Offensive Coordinator it could not be blocked. See Below:

Take out the most powerful Nose Tackle in years (Derrick Brown) out because he's a non-factor pass rush wise. Top-10 for a run-stuffer is too rich of a price given the all around elite talents likely to be on the board. Take out the Linebacker/Strong Safety Isaiah Simmons. Unbelievable linear, track athlete. Positional value and his lack of real football real instincts and physicality limit his impact at the next level. He's more Linebacker now than Strong Safety. Accumulated crazy stats but he's not the football player at Linebacker or at Strong Safety to go top 10. Add Jeff Okudah, Kristian Fulton, AJ Epenesa, and talent-wise CeeDee Lamb (although the depth of quality at WR is insane so it wouldn't make much sense to go WR). Young, Thomas, Wills, Wirfs, Epenesa, Lamb, Okudah, and Fulton (9 Players, assuming Joe Burrow and Tua/Herbert go top 10 that means we'd get one of them). Hopefully, we wouldn't necessarily be left to pick between Jeff Okudah, CeeDee Lamb, and Kristian Fulton... that would likely mean trade down, but all 3 of those players are going to likely be stars so it could be worse.

Great news that we're interviewing LaFleur. I'd take Mike LaFleur over Mike McDaniel at this point. I respect anyone that has overcome substance abuse issues, but I don't think we can risk anything at this point, especially with the added stressors of more responsibilities that would come from being an NFL OC. 1.) https://www.ninersnation.com/2017/2/4/14506824/mike-mcdaniel-coaching-staff-alcohol-kyle-shanahan 2.) https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/falcons/2017/02/02/mike-mcdaniel-atlanta-assistant-kyle-shanahan-super-bowl-2017/97414470/ "He overslept a couple times before Gary Kubiak let him go in Houston. Mike Pettine found bottles of cheap vodka under his desk in Cleveland. Even when he wasn’t getting in trouble for drinking, McDaniel was having trouble with drinking, no matter how many excuses he made to himself about its effects on his creativity and personality...." Tremendous respect to McDaniel for reportedly being sober for over a 2 year. Andrew Hawkins has raved about McDaniel's football smarts as Hawk played for him when he was our receivers coach. A little surprising that the Haslam's would interview McDaniel after McDaniel had the drink with Gordon on the plane ride. More than anything it tells me that they are serious about Robert Saleh and want to get a feel for the whole 49ers. Matt Kafka, QBC Chiefs AND Mike LaFleur, Run-Game OC, 49ers are two of the top young assistants in the league that I'd love to do whatever we can to bring them on to our next staff. Both will be Head Coaches in time. In terms of what I've heard, If Bienemy doesn't get a job, Kafka can be had assuming he gets a run/pass game coordinator role. LaFleur would have to be elevated to right OC to get him here. In a perfect world, some core hires would be: HC: Urban Meyer QB Coach/Pass-Game Coordinator: Mike Kafka Offensive Coordinator: Mike LaFleur Defensive Coordinator: Wade Phillips Senior Assistant, D-Line Coach: Larry Johnson Sr

^^^ Safeties comment... Dialed in...

Elite movement skill 6'6" 310+ Left Tackle prospects don't go in the 4th or 5th round no matter how raw they are. And it can't be overstated how elite his movement skills and feet are. This is a league where players like Eric Fischer and Luke Joeckel go 1st and 2nd overall; where Ereck Flowers goes top 10 overall; where Austin Corbett goes at the top of the 2nd round. I've voiced a lot of my tremendous concerns about Jackson as a prospect, but all year he consistently flashed his big-time ability along with consistent issues. That will be enough for him to at worst go in the 2nd round. We see things much differently if you think Epenesa is less powerful than K'Lavon Chaisson. Chaisson is more of a Vic Beasley stand-up 34-OLB as opposed to 43 Defensive End. Power-wise I also see them in different categories and tiers with Epenesa being a real force with a bull rush when he turns it on. Epenesa this year versus his sophomore year had saw less opportunities defensive scheme wise to cut it loose and rush the passer. He often played catch-contain rules or kicked inside as a DT due to Iowa's needs this year. There's a lot to like ablout Chaisson, he's a fluid mover and slippery. He has really good instincts and ability to bend around the edge. I think 43 DEs like Epenesa, Julian Okwara and Yatur Gross-Matos are on a tier above players like Chaisson in terms of power, heavy handedness, and impact ability. We'll see where things shake out as we approach the draft and after, but I'm guessing that at and after the combine Chaisson will be seen exclusively as a 34 Stand-up OLB. He's going to blow the combine up with crazy times too.

Hot Name Coordinator... Owners pants are tingling...

I never said you were. I paired what I thought were good HC candidates with a QB coach, Offensive Coordinator, and Defensive Coordinator being "elite" in a more functional sense of the word as in the top echelon of a given position or being of very high quality. I don't think however that it is too much to ask for this Franchise to find at least 1 out of 3 of those core assistants (QBC, OC, DC) as "elite" or of very high quality or maybe even 2 of 3. They are on the market and can be elevated. Why can't we seek an elite QB coach for Baker or at least 1 of 2 OCs/DCs being of very high quality or elite. Wade Phillips would be an elite or of very high quality DC. Mike Kafka, Joe Lombardi, Greg Knapp, etc. They are all on the market should we so choose to elevate them. In NFL circles, they and others like them are thought to be in the top echelon of coaches at their positions. If I subbed out the word elite and instead said, HC: Matt Rhule IF paired with, QBC with OC Responsibilities: Mike Kafka, OC: Joe Lombardi; DC: Wade Phillips ... I could've done that instead but my point was more about pairing a solid head coach candidate with heading coaching experience with assistants thought to be in the top echelon of what they do.

It is easier to give a description than name the guy. I would think though that Billionaires with almost unlimited people, material, and monetary resources could utilize an approach that unearths those rare gems/people that I, you, and others couldn't. I don't think I've "dumped over everyone else's preferences without stating my own, specifically just characteristics" at all. It is accurate to say however that I've stated my own preferences in long post that people don't pay attention to or care to read, but I've listed many names in the past (i.e., college coaches and special teams coordinators) and even listed my current desired candidates in this very thread earlier in in the thread's creation (See below). My list has a lot of the same people on it others have except I came back to my list and crossed Josh McDaniels b/c of new information that I happen to trust, I have also talked about qualifications and characteristics mainly because of my desire that we look for characteristics in every place possible as opposed to finding who the top OCs/DCs in the league are currently and deciding to interview them. That's all man. It is what it is.

hahah ... "what some brother in law says"... Yeah..F-that guy and others... Xs and Os Prowess = Head Coaching Prowess and Leadership. Hope your gut leads us to victory.. Good times... ahead

I've named some specific names of those people in many past trash posts that people no doubt averted their gaze from. Also, have talked about a subset of STCs here and elsewhere. First set of names in thread link.. other names posted in others... added some of the others below... in the end who gives a f*** ... you all see it your way.. i see it mine... You and I with a $200 dollar budget ($125 bucks for magic hippy dippy lettuce and booze for us and selected FF-brethren; $5 bucks for dry-erase markers; $20 bucks for a dry-erase board; and $50 for internet) could've generated the list of names currently considered for Head Coach within an hours time or less. The list a day after Freddie's firing is not comprehensive and does not reflect what it will be when it is all said and done. My points have always been that if you're are seeking to find a human being with uncommon traits and uncommon ability (i.e., leadership, culture, program building) it stands to reason that we should incorporate a search that seeks to interview uncommon/non-traditional sources of future NFL Head Coaching talent (College HCs with NFL Experience, College HCs, Special Teams Coordinators, Assistant Head Coaches), especially given the millions upon millions of dollars at our organizations disposal and how important the hire is. The college game is different but there coaches get a trial run on the full-spectrum culture and program building. Beyond college Head Coaches with NFL ties or Elite College Coaches, Special teams coaches have to work with defensive and offensive players alike and have to be attuned to situational football scenarios at all times. They have to develop fundamental coaching approaches to reach players of various body types, abilities, and skills. The best have tremendous leadership skills. We've all heard of names like Dave Toub who in the history of football data tracking (1997) have the most years in the top 10 and often top 3 DVOA Special Teams Ratings (10 years); there are others like Dave Simmons, Joe DeCamillis, Dave Fipp, that could deserve consideration to assess their program leadership skill/capacity. The Organization has Millions of dollars, teams of various coaching search firms, lawyers, and experts at its disposal. There's a belief amongst many that coaching searchers often follow the same tired script and make the same mistakes in a cycle destined to often lead to similar results. That's often the case especially because we follow a team who's owner chooses the candidates that NFL traditionalist prefer. I didn't think it was all that controversial to have the desire to look high and low and not just the same places we look or value as future head coaches.

I don't give a f*** about whatever it is you think I give f*** about... Me saying that the approach of interviewing 3 Hot-name coordinators, 1st year HCs (Roman, Stefanski, Saleh) as well as McCarthy, McDaniels, Allen is not particularly creative, visionary, or innovative shouldn't be all that controversial of a statement. There are long-standing highly successful Special Teams Coordinators or non-traditional Head Coaches/Candidates (College HCs and Coordinators with NFL experience) that can also be considered for a rare-skills position. If the goal is finding an exceptional leader for the organization, then it's likely going to take turning over every stone and searching high in low everywhere for such an individual. Such individuals aren't all that easy to find especially if we're competing in the same looking locations every other traditionalist search approach takes. It's not about huckster-ism or crapping in every scenario or whatever the hell. I made a comment about 6 specific names of which each various FF posters have had their own issues or critiques about each one of those candidates on their own apart from anything I've had to say about them.I had McCarthy and Stefanski at the top out of that current list. If you think 1 of Kevin Stefanski, Greg Roman, Mike McCarthy, Robert Saleh, Josh McDaniels, and Dennis Allen are going to be the high quality culture/program leader to get us to the next level, then that's your opinion... have fun with it... My point being that if you're are seeking to find a human being with uncommon traits and uncommon ability (i.e., leadership, culture, program building) it stands to reason that we should incorporate a search that seeks to interview uncommon/non-traditional sources of future NFL Head Coaching talent (College HCs with NFL Experience, College HCs, Special Teams Coordinators, Assistant Head Coaches), especially given the millions upon millions of dollars at our organizations disposal and how important the hire is. Roman, Saleh, and Allen's reputations precede them. People around the league don't think they are culture/program builders that can compete at a high level. People have their own personal stories and qualms about McDaniels. That leaves McCarthy and Stefanski of which I had as the top guys out of that list. Stefanski's a big question mark and maybe in the end he'll be able to. McCarthy has been to the top of the mountain and had a lot of wins but question have arisen from defensive and offensive players and past coaches under him regarding the quality/staleness of his program and led to them questioning if he can effectively lead a competitive program in today's game. So, when I say the process of generating names to interview doesn't yet seem visionary, creative or innovative based on the candidates list, that's my opinion. And I acknowledge that just because an approach is creative or innovative doesn't mean it's better. My point being that if you're are seeking to find a human being with uncommon traits and uncommon ability (i.e., leadership, culture, program building) it stands to reason that we should incorporate a search that seeks to interview uncommon/non-traditional sources of future NFL Head Coaching talent (College HCs with NFL Experience, College HCs, Special Teams Coordinators, Assistant Head Coaches), especially given the millions upon millions of dollars at our organizations disposal and how important the hire is.

Zo is the reason why Nick Chubb is here. Would be a huge loss. It's a shame that he's been overlooked as a real force in the league that could be a great GM. At every stop, Eliot Wolf has been the guy in people's focus and not Zo. This news also telegraphs that more front office changes are in the offing.

Kevin Stefanski, Greg Roman Mike McCarthy Robert Saleh Josh McDaniels Dennis Allen ----- No one so far is that elite culture/program leader to compete with John Harbaugh and Mike Tomlin's program. Out of the list, I guess it's Mike McCarthy and Kevin Stefanski as the leaders. Looks like this coaching search is more of the same foolishness. No innovation... no vision.. certainly not the vision or depth of knowledge it took to hire non-traditional leaders of men like Harbaugh and Tomlin... .. but then again... we don't have the benefit of having Ozzie Newsome or Kevin Colbert running our coaching search... ... it's going to be a bumpy ride...

^^^ This guy's dialed in...

This... Think about the vision it took for Ozzie Newsome to hire John Harbaugh as Head Coach; Think about the vision it took for Kevin Colbert to hire Mike Tomlin as Head Coach. Who are we going to hire that can compete with the year in and year out program/culture building and sustaining that those two elite leaders are able to do? That's the question. Not who's name is buzzing in coaching firm circles, or who's currently is doing well as a coordinator this year in football. .. all I want... the best HEAD COACH...Culture/Program/Habits Builder and Leader... F-Everything else... Is it so much to ask??? Why do these owners suck at this so bad... Is Robert Saleh ... or Greg Roman going to compete with Harbaugh and Tomlin? F-no..

Nigh....

That Andy Lee trade was indeed a great one. I forgot about that one. I never meant to imply that taking Kizer was a problem. It made sense all around. Just meant to suggest that when looking at those draft we can't count Kizer as a hit. Not sure I agree with "live with those misses" as the key ingredient with Corey may have been deficient football character and commitment to the game. Though the injuries were absolutely not his fault. Players get injured. He didn't seem to have the mental toughness to weather hard coaching. To be fair, not a lot of players do; even good players. All in all, I'm just not sure that looking at the draft record during that era is something can be seen as favorable.... and that's without comparing it to Dorsey or whatever. I've said it before: If the goal was to tank historically, accumulate a ton of assets and cap space then Sashi/DePo/Berry were the greatest of all time. If the goal was to add many foundation players/pieces during that time, then their greatness tumbles to mediocrity.