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2022 Pick # 1 (A) Treylon Burks Arkansas (B) Chris Olave Ohio State (C) Drake London USC (D) Jahan Dotson PENN (E) Jameson Williams Notre Dame Pick # 2 (A) Christian Watson, NJ (B)George Pickens, Geo (C)Sean Rhyan, UCLA (D)DeMarvin Leal.Tex A&M (E)pHIDARIAN Mathis , Alabama Pick # 3 (A) Tariq Woolen, Tex- San An (B)Cam Taylor Britt, NEB (C) Jaylen Watson.Washington State (D)Abraham Lucus, Washingtib (E)Matt Waletzko, ND Pick # 4, (A) Cole Strange, Chat (B) Dylan Parnam,Memphis (C) Quay Walker, Georgia (D)Leo Chanal, WISC (E) Luke Goedke, Cent Michigan Pick # 5 (A)Cade Otton, Washington (B)Josh Paschal, Kentucky (C)Josh Jobe, Alabama (D)Andrew Stueber, MICH (E)DEangelo Malone, Western Kent Pick # 6 (A)Myjai Sander, Cin (B) Matthew Butler, Tenn (C)Jeremy Ruckertt, Ohio (D)Isiah Likely, Coastal Carolina (E)Jalen Tolbert, South Alab Pick # 7 (A)Joshua Williams, Fayetteville (B)Alontae Taylor.Tenn (C) (D) (E) Pick # 8 (A)Tariq Castro- Fields PIt (B) (C) (D) (E) Pick # 9 (A) (B) (C) (D) (E) Pick # 10 (A) (B) (C) (D) (E) Pick # 11 (A) (B) (C) (D) (E)

That's the hill you're gonna die on? Were you not good with him being the highest paid WR? If that was an issue for you, good news! These other guys are gonna be cheaper...

Still every year there is a blind faith in the GB front office. I agree that the best answer to the WR situation is selecting two in the first four picks. In my opinion that means we need any combination of the following that I consider 1st/2nd Round talent (G. Wilson, C. Olave, T. Burks, D. London, J. Williams, J. Dotson, C. Watson). With the number of overall picks GB has to work with, moving up is real option to secure the player the warroom has been focused on. As we've witnessed in previous years, the Packers will invest 3 picks at the position; however, I really hope that their is a much greater urgency in targeting their preferred receiver(s). I think its best to keep a positive and proactive attitude that this board is known for, but humor me for a moment as I explain how I reviewed the first three rounds of every Packer Draft beginning with who-else, the Shhhhtshhhow of 2007 with Justin Harrell at 16 and Brandon Jackson in round 2. 2008, go review the two second round selections. 2009 was the 100 year draft. 2010: Mike Neal 2nd Round, 2011: Derrick Sherrod/first Round (i realize that many of you have no clue who he is... there are plenty of us that were here for that). Hey.. 2012... 1st Round: Nick Perry 2nd Round: Jerrel Worthy 3rd Round: Casey Hayward* (guess which one we chose to let walk and ended up becoming a top 5 CB in the NFL... IT WILL BE SO GOOD WHEN THE DRAFT COMES... I'm gonna keep going... 2013: 1st Round Datone Jones (who? ask your dad) 2014: HaHa Round 1/21st overall, second round was Davante.. notice that in 7 years so far not one WR in the top 100... not convinced.. cool, 2015, good lord... Rd 1 D. Randall (shaking head like my dad used to) Rd2 Q. Rollins (who? he was a point guard for the University of MIami.. notice I didnt say DB or CB. Rd 3 Ty Montgomery (so is this what is considered a "weapon"... remember his last game as a Packer.. icing on the cake 2016 2nd Round OT Jason Spriggs 3rd Round... a rush of excitment for Kyler Fackrel 2017... This is the epitome of Packer Drafts. Our first four selections were so bad on so many levels... remember End of Round 1, Green Bay on the clock. Somehow TJ Watt (NFL DEF Player of the Year TJ WATT) has somehow fallen to us... the walk to the podium.. GB has traded their 1st round pick to PIT. At this point, we are 10 years minimum into a draft history that is almost as bad as it gets. Very important and early selections.. whiffed.. passing on countless guys that we discussed ad nauseum here and the moderators must have decided to deploy "In Ted We Trust" and then people started forgetting the giants turds that were left in very important draft positions... Im delaying discussing our #4 CB that cost us the TB NFC championship. Trade back and miss the generational talent FROM HERE! WISCONSIN! METRO MILWAUKEE/ NEAR THE WAUKESHA AIRPORT... WE KNEW WHAT WE HAD... no? Well, his motherloving brother was good enough that I would selected the guy without anyone entertaining trading back for Kevin Loving King. Oh... we still have 3 more horsespit selections from that draft: ROUND 2: Josh Jones.. dangerous headcase is how i think he was described (so 2nd round material) ROUND 3: Montravious Adams... (sorry kid, dad doesnt even know) ROUND 4: Vince Biegel HOLYYYYYYY WHOA... Its gonna be awesome when the draft comes and we dont have to listen to this crap about All Pro Receivers and giving up a Kevin King, Josh Jones, and Montravious and pay him market rate... yeah, lets make sure we all mock George Pickens at #28 after dancing with another DB that is prob ok in the slot -- wait like in 2018 in the 2nd Round? 2018: We hit big on Jaire... its embarrassing, the last complement for a 1st Rounder was NINE YEARS EARLIER... 2009... Those huge first round picks were huge contributors when the team won the Super Bowl.. imagine that. Premium talent, premium results. Were gonna look at what happens when you need WR help and then dont do anything until Rounds 4, 5, 6. This is what I am afraid of. Rounds 2 and 3 were crap picks too... but we drafted MVS in round 5 and then expected him to perform like a top tier WR, oh, almost forgot.. remember how everyone was so enraged over the 4th rounder used to move up for Love. in 2018, we took some jackhole in round 4 that never made the team J'mon Moore, 5th round MVS, 6th EQ THAT WAS THE PLAN... Ill stop. This trip down memory lane shall serve as a warning for all the cute Mocks that argue that "Jaire's replacement is more important at #22." No, its not. Because we dont have any starting caliber WR on this roster. Two WR in first FOUR selections. That is a very sensible plan. That leaves 7 picks in rounds 3-7 to find eventual OL starters, a 3rd receiver (maybe even George Pickens in round 3 where his projected value is.) 5th Round how about a big burly RB from Michigan in case we have a repeat from last year. Two things, 1. I love the draft more than most of all you. But I am not feeling confident at all that we dont just witness the same old sheet... and then we'll once again hate how we always seem to screw it up. 2. Everyone wanted to resign Davante and pay him whatever... but now the investment of two draft picks received for Adams plus a market rate contract has you boys rethinking the value of a superstar WR1? I want brains inspected after we all bash our skulls against whatever device you follow Picks #22 and #28 on Thursday. LETS GO PACK... (god...)

Alex Green, your analysis is pure fodder to create a damn ruckus. I heard a ruckus. And I'll describe what sounded like Alexandria Green defecating on a damn good mock. A lot of the guys I target when running simulations and guys I have done homework on to see how they fit and how versatile they are. Your Mom has a Room temperature IQ.. but she does her job perfectly.

I like Winfrey, the TE from Ohio State and Josh Thompson CB has been on my radar for a minute now thanks to multiple podcasts and reputable big boards having him steadily moving up. His stock is rising like some do and he might be long gone by Round 7. Let me ask, I've been seeing more Pickens chatter and seeing him being the late first WR that GB selects. All the analysis I can find has him as a top 75 guy. His combine wasn't ridiculous, and the ACL issue is always discussed more than what makes him a first round pick now 4 days before this thing pops off. Is it because the A Group is looking like we wont have a chance at the Blue Chip names that we all know? If so is Christian Watson from ND St jumping into the middle of the first as well? Thats a guy I've found plenty on, and he ran a sub 4.4 and his work ethic and character have teams talking himup. not doing it and overvaluing the 13 draft picks that can't realistically make the team.. i keep referencing recent drafts but history says we missed some big things and got too damn cute. Just looking to find some recent scouting that has bumped Pickens up a full round.

Boring and desperate... I guess if you read mock after mock and compose scenarios so reminiscent of previous Packer drafts where the masses were upset because the wrong pick was made. We are not a team that looks back on previous drafts and can feel good about early picks because when they have missed, its been monumental. I understand how all available media mocking one of 5 WR to Green Bay in Round 1 might bore you, but this isn't a 'kick the tires' irrational reaction. The Packers do not currently have a starting WR on their roster. Its not Super Bowl week where we drown our sorrows in FA dreaming and early mock drafts (two WRs in round 1... that was all Feb and March, and then April, and Sammy Watkins who has never proven to be anything that is going to get you wins is #4 in the WR room? Minimum two WR in first 4 picks. Why? Because we literally dont have any, and using some of the ridiculous draft capital to move up to get Wilson, Olave, London, or Burks might be all you hear but thats cause you dont need to think too hard when looking at where the gaping hole is, so every pundit, podcast, and Packerbacker is predicting what is the right freakin move... I hate cute mocks... I appreciate your outstanding work, I just think it smells worse than the last time we took 3 WR, those picks were absolute trash (including 5th round MVS) terrible picks... wasted and now gone. I guess we are now ok with Florida State DE/Edge Rushers... I sure as hell am not (as I shake my fist at the sky). A kid named Reynolds was selected and so began my lifelong relationship with benzodiazepienes (and my inability to spell the word). I know, call me a fool... my girl does (in a good way, believe that) and referencing Jamal is stupid and superstitious ... but no more than starting the year with Lazard and Cobb at 1/2 and passing on a talented group of WR in the first. Its a bad plan to not be manuerving somewhere to not just get a couple 'Bo Melton s' and another 7th round camp body. The goal is to actually improve the position as much as possible... how? (2 early rookie contracts is the answer.) (Been coming here since Dain and msmre were running things.. still the best (but no one here needs to be told how smart they are-- love it) Thanks for letting me disagree, youll see I'm right and have been all along

Need to sit one of these four (full PPR): T.Hill KC D. Samuel SF S. Diggs BUF T.Godwin TB (an embarrassment of riches until you see the RBs Im working with.) Again, please help me out with 3 of the 4. Need to win this week to stay in playoff contention. Thank you!

What is Josiah Deguara's role in MLF's offense? It's obvious that he was targeted by this coaching staff and a very valuable 3rd round pick was used to take him. I understand that injuries have limited his time on the field but do you have a feel for how he fits into this offense as you have broken it down and described the pieces/roles/and philosophy involved? I can't imagine that Tonyan's emergence as a weapon in the middle of the field and in the redzone changes anything as far as Deguara's role in the offense is concerned... Does anyone have any insight as to why Lafleur targeted Deguara and what they hope his role will be and what any of you guys see with him and what your expectations are moving forward. Thanks..

Thanks Norm, I feel my confidence growing...

Swear to God, I have have proclaimed this about my ex at one point in my life when I was much thinner, better looking, financially secure, and before all hope was lost... good god I never realized just how far the fall is and how bloody the impact. Anyway, give me Olivia, then Shailene (w/ long hair), and third is Danica.

The question was posed here in this thread only one page back. I quoted it. I don't think I've compromised the integrity of the thread and this Packers/Rodgers schmidt has me too depressed to move it. Guess everyone will have to awkwardly ignore the post, just like we are all awkwardly discussing what a 17 game season without Rodgers looks like, pretending like moving on isn't going to be goshdanged funkshow

Say what you will about Stephen A. Smith, but today on First Take part of his rant included him asking (paraphrase) 'why no one is asking Gutekunst what in the hell did he do that made Rodgers, the face of the franchise and NFL, a player who has signed contract after contract, basically done everything asked of him, and a superstar who has publicly stated he wants to retire as a Packer... that has caused this response from Rodgers?' Professionally Rodgers has never been a player to cause waves in the locker room or within the organization (to our knowledge). Personally, this situation makes me sick. Aaron Rodgers is the best player and most important person in the organization. I'm not saying you give the man the entire kingdom, but I do believe you make damn sure he is 100% on page with the direction of the organization is pursuing and if that means the GM includes him in the discussion of the direction the team plans to go, especially when it involves the management's feeling of Aaron's role on the team. As it has been more eloquently stated by numerous national media pundits, the NFL and the treatment of its biggest stars has evolved and it is totally acceptable and is expected that someone like Aaron Rodgers have a seat at the table when teams are discussing direction, some personnel moves, and are definitely included in the discussions involving their future with the team. That is how todays NFL and its superstars interact with each other. If there is no resolution that results in Rodgers returning to the team, I'm not only concerned about this season but my greatest concern is how our other All-Pro/Veteran leaders respond. Bakhtiari and Adams have been outspoken in their support of Rodgers. I know Bahk recently signed a multi year deal, but what are the chances Adams stays if the divorce between Rodgers and the Packers remains ugly and publicly the team continues to look the bad guy and an organization that has issues with their relationships with the veteran players, and how the organization is known for mishandling the two most important players on the team in the past 30 years and shockingly repeating their mistakes with Rodgers and learning nothing from the Brett Favre exodus. This is how things appear to the average NFL fan. I am aware of the differences in the situations. However, Rodgers has been the face of the franchise for over a decade and coming off an MVP season and realizing how close this team is to a Super Bowl, and having to realize that without Rodgers, their Super Bowl chances are zero, I want to know how things got to this point. Gutekunst knows why we are at this point, and if he isn't considering a trade, he must believe that there is a chance to fix this. What the hell did you do Gutekunst?

#1a Olivia Munn 1b. Shailene Woodley #3. Danica Patrick

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I gotta think its more of a deflated locker room issue and not so much an unexplainable explosive shatting of the bed on Poes part. I'd be actually really happy if GB brought in a FA DT with Poe's resume without having to cough up a draft pick or eat a bunch of salary.