jrry32 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 I like that Brandon Clarke kid. He reminds me of Josh Smith. Hopefully, he doesn't share Smith's shot selection problem. 2 hours ago, beekay414 said: I really hope Zion is what you all expect. He's a good kid so I wish him nothing but the best. I'll gladly be wrong if it means a young man thrives. You don't like Zion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, jrry32 said: I like that Brandon Clarke kid. He reminds me of Josh Smith. Hopefully, he doesn't share Smith's shot selection problem. You don't like Zion? Brandon Clarke is definitely smarter than Josh Smith haha. I like him a lot and if his arms were longer he'd be a guaranteed lottery pick. It's not that he doesn't like Zion (though I'm pretty sure he doesn't view him quite as highly as most), but this guy is coming in with more hype than any prospect since LeBron, so expectations are beyond sky high. If he doesn't come in and put up a Blake Griffin level rookie season, then a lot of people will view it as a disappointment and that's not fair to Zion. I don't think he'll be a franchise player, as in an elite player who can be the best player on a championship team. Don't get me wrong, I've grown to like him more and more and would have loved for the Grizzles to get him and he's an easy #1 pick, but I think he'll top out closer to bottom end of top 20 player as opposed to a top 5-10 player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 10 hours ago, beekay414 said: I really hope Zion is what you all expect. He's a good kid so I wish him nothing but the best. I'll gladly be wrong if it means a young man thrives. I remember before the college season started everyone was saying that he'd be Duke's 3rd best player and would have a hard time adjusting to college basketball. Hell, people went as far as saying he only dominated in HS because he played against weak competition... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 5 hours ago, seminoles1 said: I don't think he'll be a franchise player, as in an elite player who can be the best player on a championship team. Don't get me wrong, I've grown to like him more and more and would have loved for the Grizzles to get him and he's an easy #1 pick, but I think he'll top out closer to bottom end of top 20 player as opposed to a top 5-10 player. 3 I could see that. I think it's realistic to expect that he becomes a Blake Griffin-level player rather than one of the truly elite players in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I could see that. I think it's realistic to expect that he becomes a Blake Griffin-level player rather than one of the truly elite players in the league. He's gonna be a mix between young and old Griffin. I don't think he'll ever reach the scoring and playmaking levels of current Griffin or the elite rebounding of young Griffin, but a combo with better defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: He's gonna be a mix between young and old Griffin. I don't think he'll ever reach the scoring and playmaking levels of current Griffin or the elite rebounding of young Griffin, but a combo with better defense. Zion’s ball handling and playmaking are already better than Blake’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 19, 2019 Author Share Posted May 19, 2019 Another thing with Zion is that he has legit DPOY potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 25 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Zion’s ball handling and playmaking are already better than Blake’s. I don't agree about his playmaking or ballhandling. Griffin is a legit point forward at the NBA level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beekay414 Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 45 minutes ago, seminoles1 said: I don't agree about his playmaking or ballhandling. Griffin is a legit point forward at the NBA level. This. I've seen nothing that indicates he's anywhere near that level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 8 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Brandon Clarke is definitely smarter than Josh Smith haha. I like him a lot and if his arms were longer he'd be a guaranteed lottery pick. It's not that he doesn't like Zion (though I'm pretty sure he doesn't view him quite as highly as most), but this guy is coming in with more hype than any prospect since LeBron, so expectations are beyond sky high. If he doesn't come in and put up a Blake Griffin level rookie season, then a lot of people will view it as a disappointment and that's not fair to Zion. I don't think he'll be a franchise player, as in an elite player who can be the best player on a championship team. Don't get me wrong, I've grown to like him more and more and would have loved for the Grizzles to get him and he's an easy #1 pick, but I think he'll top out closer to bottom end of top 20 player as opposed to a top 5-10 player. Sad but 100% true. That mediocre wingspan is going to cost him like 5 spots, at least lol. Still a huge fan, numbers don't lie, more than makes up for lack of length with excellent timing and athleticism. If I had to bet, I'd peg Zion around where you are projecting him (top 20), BUT, I do think the ceiling is there for him to be a franchise player. Ton of "ifs" though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyMossIsBoss Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 1 hour ago, beekay414 said: This. I've seen nothing that indicates he's anywhere near that level. Maybe he meant as a prospect?... Only explanation, because current Blake is one of the best play-making bigs in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrry32 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 13 hours ago, seminoles1 said: Brandon Clarke is definitely smarter than Josh Smith haha. I like him a lot and if his arms were longer he'd be a guaranteed lottery pick. It's not that he doesn't like Zion (though I'm pretty sure he doesn't view him quite as highly as most), but this guy is coming in with more hype than any prospect since LeBron, so expectations are beyond sky high. If he doesn't come in and put up a Blake Griffin level rookie season, then a lot of people will view it as a disappointment and that's not fair to Zion. I don't think he'll be a franchise player, as in an elite player who can be the best player on a championship team. Don't get me wrong, I've grown to like him more and more and would have loved for the Grizzles to get him and he's an easy #1 pick, but I think he'll top out closer to bottom end of top 20 player as opposed to a top 5-10 player. I think Zion is going to be a monster, personally, but I understand why people don't feel the same. I think he has Draymond Green potential on defense with Larry Johnson potential on offense. His ball handling at his size and weight is highly impressive. And nobody doubts his athletic gifts. He's flashed a shot and playmaking ability. Yeah, I think he can be one of the top 10 players in the NBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 20, 2019 Author Share Posted May 20, 2019 10 hours ago, 11sanchez11 said: The next Pascal Siakam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seminoles1 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 How much would it cost to buy #35 from Atlanta? They can't be planning to make all of their picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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