Utley Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Darius Garland reminds me of Jeff Teague. You really taking Jeff Teague upside over D'Angelo Russell upside? I'd rather have peak-Teague than Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Utley said: I'd rather have peak-Teague than Russell. Peak Teague? The guy that averaged 17/7 on 43.8/32.9/84.6? Plus, Garland is nowhere near the facilitator Teague is/was. Sorry, don't see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utley Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Peak Teague? The guy that averaged 17/7 on 43.8/32.9/84.6? Plus, Garland is nowhere near the facilitator Teague is/was. Sorry, don't see it. I don't like the comp to Teague, but I'd still rather have Teague than Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Utley said: I don't like the comp to Teague, but I'd still rather have Teague than Russell. In today's NBA? Nah. I can't see it. What's your comp for Garland? Edited May 28, 2019 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resilient part 2 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 19 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Good thing dudes don't stop growing in high school... yeah just for the record, The game I saw was in early Dec. the McDonald's game was March or April? so maybe he did grow a few inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utley Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, beekay414 said: In today's NBA? Nah. I can't see it. What's your comp for Garland? I just don't think Russell is good tbh. Good question. I guess I'd say poor man's Dame, which is a sixth man imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Just now, Utley said: Good question. I guess I'd say poor man's Dame, which is a sixth man imo. Yeah, that was where I was going to go next. Was going to say you hope he can be in some vein of Lillard. My thing is though...how can you like Lillard but not D'Angelo? They are similar players except D'Angelo is a better facilitator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 30 minutes ago, CWood21 said: Agreed. The Teague comp is off. He's D'Angelo Russell without the court vision, although I don't like that comp either. D'Angelo was a much better passer. Garland is Russell without the court vision? Lmaooooo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utley Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Yeah, that was where I was going to go next. Was going to say you hope he can be in some vein of Lillard. My thing is though...how can you like Lillard but not D'Angelo? They are similar players except D'Angelo is a better facilitator. A few things. Lillard is better within the arc than Russell and he's better at getting to the rack. He gets to the line more and has a far better mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 25 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: 5. Garland How many 6'2" 175 SG's with no real playmaking skills or defense are thriving in the league right now? He's an unathletic Lou Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Utley said: A few things. Lillard is better within the arc than Russell and he's better at getting to the rack. He gets to the line more and has a far better mentality. Yeah but you're comparing a 28 year old Dame to a 22 year old Russell. You compare the two at the same age, there's really no debate who was better at 22. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utley Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, beekay414 said: Yeah but you're comparing a 28 year old Dame to a 22 year old Russell. You compare the two at the same age, there's really no debate who was better at 22. All fair, but the mentality is what allowed Dame to make that jump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11sanchez11 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NYRaider said: How many 6'2" 175 SG's with no real playmaking skills or defense are thriving in the league right now? He's an unathletic Lou Williams. One, lis there is a decent chance any player after Zion isn't that good. I comped the #4 player on my BB to Evan Turner (downside comp) lol. Two, I think he has shown flashes of being a capable playmaker. Three, a lot of players get better at passing. Some of the ways you do that are by being super athletic (Westbrook) where you can get defenders out of position easily or being super skilled (Lillard or KD or Kyrie) where they have to double team you or overreact to your every movement. And his dribbling plus shooting plus footwork shows the upside that a lot of the others don't. Edited May 28, 2019 by 11sanchez11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted May 28, 2019 Share Posted May 28, 2019 1 minute ago, Utley said: All fair, but the mentality is what allowed Dame to make that jump. True. One thing I'm never going to question is Coby White's mentality. Kid wants it. I'm usually harder on Tar Heels but Coby White is my favorite Tar Heel since Ed Cota. Kid will be good. No doubt in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted May 28, 2019 Author Share Posted May 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, 11sanchez11 said: One, lis there is a decent chance any player after Zion isn't that good. I comped the #4 player on my BB to Evan Turner (downside comp) lol. Two, I think he has shown flashes of being a capable playmaker. Three, a lot of players get better at passing. Some of the ways you do that are by being super athletic (Westbrook) where you can get defenders out of position easily or being super skilled (Lillard or KD or Kyrie) where they have to double team you or overreact to your every movement. And his dribbling plus shooting plus footwork shows the upside that a lot of the others don't. 1 If he played the entire season he'd be ranked in the 15-20 range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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