Dome Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 11 hours ago, Tyty said: Nature can go f itself Nature fs whatever it wants. It certainly could choose to f itself, but it can also f literally whoever it wants so fing itself is probably not it’s first choice. did you see that they left a baby elephant to starve to death? That’s totally different, you can’t fix that. i once saw a video of a deer giving birth and a panther running in and grabbing the newborn as it fell out. Mom just ran away. Brutal stuff, I can’t imagine just watching that as a camera man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinneasGage Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 nm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 14 hours ago, Tyty said: Nature can go f itself Nature has been here long before us, and nature will be here long after we're extinct and Dolphins have taken over. We're nothing more than a blink of an eye to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty21 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, ET80 said: Nature has been here long before us, and nature will be here long after we're extinct and Dolphins have taken over. We're nothing more than a blink of an eye to it. Not if us humans have anything to say about it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 38 minutes ago, Tyty said: Not if us humans have anything to say about it! https://katu.com/news/local/local-group-throws-rocks-at-smoke-to-make-it-leave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, Dome said: https://katu.com/news/local/local-group-throws-rocks-at-smoke-to-make-it-leave Yeah, we got this. Just need a good Bill Pullman speech, and we got this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 If people can intervene in human lives to keep them from dying from things like bad natural disaster decisions, suicide, drug abuse and idiot decisions even idiots know are idiot decisions, they can intervene in the lives of penguins who made a bad survival choice. Jeez, some of you have literally no heart nor soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 13 minutes ago, Outpost31 said: If people can intervene in human lives to keep them from dying from things like bad natural disaster decisions, suicide, drug abuse and idiot decisions even idiots know are idiot decisions, they can intervene in the lives of penguins who made a bad survival choice. Jeez, some of you have literally no heart nor soul. Ehhh, I don’t take issues with humans intervening... but real talk, I’d slaughter an entire flock of flightless birds if it meant saving a single human life. Note: I don’t know if you’re putting equal weight into the value of their lives based on this post as I am drinking whiskey at 6:45am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Just now, Dome said: Ehhh, I don’t take issues with humans intervening... but real talk, I’d slaughter an entire flock of flightless birds if it meant saving a single human life. I'm saying as far as letting nature run its course being an excuse to not intervene. Humans are natural, too. If humans make stupid survival decisions and can get bailed out, lesser animals can get the same intervention without it poorly effecting nature. Not all human life is worth a flock of flightless birds. There are a few humans I'd trade for a flock of flightless birds. More than a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 8:43 AM, Outpost31 said: Jeez, some of you have literally no heart nor soul. You're JUST getting this about me? On 11/22/2018 at 8:43 AM, Outpost31 said: If people can intervene in human lives to keep them from dying from things like bad natural disaster decisions, suicide, drug abuse and idiot decisions even idiots know are idiot decisions, they can intervene in the lives of penguins who made a bad survival choice The intervention, the "strength in numbers and structure" model we have adopted in modern society is our defense mechanism. We weren't blessed with fangs, claws, ligaments that allow us to sprint 80mph for up to 10 miles, etc. Our strength is the use of opposable thumbs and a logical mind to solve complex problems and leverage others to help when in need. So, when we "intervene" in situations, we're just doing what nature intended us to do with the tools given to us. Nowhere in there is it dictated that we need to do these things for other species. We can - and there are plenty who do, which is no problem. But in this specific scenario, that crew was to observe, not to intervene. To borrow a Star Trek trope, this was a violation of the Prime Directive. If you're job is to watch, then watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: If you're job is to watch, then watch. What if I am not in fact job is to watch? What if I am job is to intervene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacReady Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Literally every episode of Star Trek do they break the Prime Directive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dome said: What if I am not in fact job is to watch? What if I am job is to intervene? ...then intervene, duh. 1 minute ago, Outpost31 said: Literally every episode of Star Trek do they break the Prime Directive. I've never watched a single episode, so I wouldn't know or care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dome Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: 5 minutes ago, Dome said: What if I am not in fact job is to watch? What if I am job is to intervene? ...then intervene, duh. I refuse to be defined in that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pwny Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 I just don’t understand the reasoning to not intervene in this scenario. They weren’t disturbing the penguins in any way, they simply made a path for them to take or not take. Am I missing something? Because I don’t see how it could be seen as improper to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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