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8 hours ago, Jroc04 said:

Assets are assets. A 4th rounder could mean a lot of things. A potential starter, depth on the OL, a way to maneuver a better pick with a trade up, a sweetener to land Clowney. Sendejo is a 32 year old S. He’s seemingly worthless in this league. Howie most certainly thought about the comp pick when acquiring Tate. Dont see the reason he’d just forget about it now. If through 10 weeks he sees a potential out for that 4th rounder, he’ll do it. 

Yeah the trade value is the biggest thing to me, see quality starters going for 4ths and 5ths every offseason.

I think Sendejo is staying though, Fort has shown some athleticism but there have been some promising rookie LBs...would think he'd get the axe first.
Especially with how little the Eagles care about LB

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25 minutes ago, Kiltman said:

Yeah the trade value is the biggest thing to me, see quality starters going for 4ths and 5ths every offseason.

I think Sendejo is staying though, Fort has shown some athleticism but there have been some promising rookie LBs...would think he'd get the axe first.
Especially with how little the Eagles care about LB

i dont think howie is someone that would make his team worse to get better draft assets a year a later.

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2 hours ago, ninjapirate said:

i dont think howie is someone that would make his team worse to get better draft assets a year a later.

Which is why Sendejo is safe, despite what some people think.
He's clearly the 3rd best safety on the team.

I think it could come into play though when it’s Fort vs the other LBs. 

Bradham, Kamu, and Brown are locks

Then they might only be able to keep 2 from Fort, Gerry, Worrilow, Edwards, and Singleton
We are going heavy so many other places, and have devalued LB so much by going nickel so much.

They seem to love Gerry for whatever reason, and those last two young guys have played well.

If Fort was playing great it wouldn’t be so much of a discussion. Or if those other guys weren’t playing well, it also wouldn’t be a discussion.
But he’s just been fine, and they have looked promising. 

They are all under contract 2 to 3 years, so comp picks next year doesn’t come into play.

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On 8/17/2019 at 2:51 AM, Jroc04 said:

Assets are assets. A 4th rounder could mean a lot of things. A potential starter, depth on the OL, a way to maneuver a better pick with a trade up, a sweetener to land Clowney. Sendejo is a 32 year old S. He’s seemingly worthless in this league. Howie most certainly thought about the comp pick when acquiring Tate. Dont see the reason he’d just forget about it now. If through 10 weeks he sees a potential out for that 4th rounder, he’ll do it. 

I haven't seen where the Eagles were getting Clowney.
That's just a nonsense reason to cut Sendejo.
Plus, if there is a shot at Clowney, the Eagles will have other picks.
He is worth it and they don't need that much.

As for the pick, the last 10 4th round picks were:
Shareef Miller
Avonte Maddox
Josh Sweat
Mack Hollins
Donnel Pumphrey
Jaylen Watkins
Matt Barkley
Brandon Boykin
Casey Mathews
Alex Henery

Other than Maddox, there hasn't been a lot of quality there.
That's a 10% shot on the pick, not to mention it would be a sandwich pick, more akin to a 5th rounder.

Clayton Thorson
Shelton Gibson
Nathan Gerry
Wendell Smallwood
Halapoulivaati Vaitai
Taylor Hart
Ed Reynolds
Earl Wolff
Dennis Kelly
Dion Lewis
Julian Vandervelde

They are similar, albeit slightly better results.
Still, they're not game changers.

This team is built to win now.
You push all in.
The Eagles can't afford to have a glaring deficiency at the expense of the 135th pick in next year's draft.

Inexpensive, veteran depth provides the Eagles with proven performance, a guy who can start in a pinch and leadership.
If he's the best S2 in camp, even by a little, they should keep him.
Frankly, I don't see Deiondre’ Hall beating him out.

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5 minutes ago, babyatemydingo said:

They are similar, albeit slightly better results.
Still, they're not game changers.

yeah the actual picks in the 4th we've had don't make it worth it.
I've only ever thought of it as trade value for vets.
A way for Howie to get around the comp pick formula and make the team better quick with guys like Desean, Michael Bennett, etc

Can get a solid guy for a 4th most years.

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On 8/19/2019 at 1:13 AM, Kiltman said:

yeah the actual picks in the 4th we've had don't make it worth it.
I've only ever thought of it as trade value for vets.
A way for Howie to get around the comp pick formula and make the team better quick with guys like Desean, Michael Bennett, etc

Can get a solid guy for a 4th most years.

Um no, see above.

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2 hours ago, babyatemydingo said:

Um no, see above.

No, U

 

(what am I supposed to read dingo?!?)

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4 hours ago, Kiltman said:

No, U

 

(what am I supposed to read dingo?!?)

Dingo logic: A 4th is worthless because of our draft history. 

A 4th has value. New value every year. To think otherwise is asinine. It’s NFL currency and is valuable. 

Any year, any time if I propose a 4th for your backup safety, you take it. Why? Because a 4th is more valuable than a guy that’s easily replaced. 

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2 hours ago, Jroc04 said:

Dingo logic: A 4th is worthless because of our draft history. 

A 4th has value. New value every year. To think otherwise is asinine. It’s NFL currency and is valuable. 

Any year, any time if I propose a 4th for your backup safety, you take it. Why? Because a 4th is more valuable than a guy that’s easily replaced. 

it seems like a lot of those 4th round picks also flashed good for a year or two. I wouldnt say they were all trash.

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