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I figured I'd start this and add to it as time permits.  A few things about my thoughts on the draft.  I will post players I like, not players I think the Colts will draft.  IT would be cool if they aligned but I also realize that CB and the Colts are looking 5 years in the future not just 2021.  I also realize, the Colts have about 10 times has much information to evaluate a player as I do, so I don't get upset if the Colts do not draft a player I think they should draft.

I see the Colts biggest needs to address this offseason as OT, QB, DE.  I think, based on some comments of Irsay that the Colts will either roll with Eason or sign/trade for a vet.  Between DE and OT, I think OT is a bigger hole to fill.  The Colts could use a committee to replace Houston in 2021 but you cannot take that same approach to OT.  Now obviously drafting someone like Sewell would be ideal but since the Colts are picking on 21, it's not realistic either.  So, a tackle that I like is Liam Eichenberg, OT Notre Dame, 6-6 305lbs.

Here are some links: 

https://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021leichenberg.php (I know some people don't like Walter Football but I have found them to be one of the more accurate eval sites over the years)

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/liam-eichenberg/rkI1RpTQsZ

My thoughts after watching the Clemson vs Notre dame game

  • I think he could come in and be a day 1 starter
  • Technically he is very sound.  Watching the game, I only saw a couple of times where he let his shoulders get past his feet.  Usually he kept a good base and well balanced
  • Good hand punch.  On running players he did a good job of locking onto the defender and using his body and arms to direct.  On pass protection he did a good job of punching and then bringing his arms back to the ready position to punch again.
  • Keeps his head on a swivel, only once did I see him get surprised by a stunt coming to his area.
  • Works well with his guard.  Did an excellent job of passing off a defender to the guard so he could pick of a stunting lineman or a delayed blitz
  • Struggles against speed.  Does a good job mirroring but does not have the foot quickness to change directions against a speed rusher.  His foot quickness is not poor, but I would rate it as average to above average
  • Seems to have good, functional strength
  • Very long arms and knows how to use them.
  • From reports he has an excellent football IQ

overall there are not a lot of negatives in Liam's game.  On the flip side, there is not a lot of elite in his play either.  But I think, playing next to Nelson, will develop a nasty streak in Eichenberg and he will be very similar to AC, in that you can plug him in at LT and not worry about the position for the next decade or so.  Walter Football has Eichenberg with a 2nd day grade, so some will think #21 is too early for him but I don't think so.  He plays at a crucial position and, IMO can be a day 1 starter, so "reaching" is not out of the question.  Although if the Colts could pull off a trade of 21 and still get in the top of the 2nd round and grab him that would be excellent.

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I’d definitely like to see more of this, keep it going when you can afford the time. 

I’d agree on OT over DE. I would like to see us resign Autry to play LE and draft someone to compete with Turay and Banogu for the other side. As far as QB, I’m team anyone but Darnold or Brissett at this point 

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Nice job, coffee.....love it. One of the players I have watched a bit, is Hamilcar Rashed Jr.   In 2019, he was a one man wrecking crew, but injuries slowed him in 2020. As an outside rusher, spy, specialist.....he can be that one player you add to a defense and he just makes plays. Here is one of write-ups from Scout...

 

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1022261&DraftYear=2021

 

Here is his highlights...

 

 

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19 hours ago, Warhorse said:

Nice job, coffee.....love it. One of the players I have watched a bit, is Hamilcar Rashed Jr.   In 2019, he was a one man wrecking crew, but injuries slowed him in 2020. As an outside rusher, spy, specialist.....he can be that one player you add to a defense and he just makes plays. Here is one of write-ups from Scout...

 

https://draftscout.com/dsprofile.php?PlayerId=1022261&DraftYear=2021

 

Here is his highlights...

 

 

Thanks for posting.  I look forward to learning more about him.

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Ok, next one up.  With Rivers retiring and Brissett not currently under contract the Colts definitely have a need at QB.  According to some comments made by Irsay, it seems like the team is leaning towards signing/trading for a veteran QB but the price may be higher than what Ballard wants to pay.  So, if the Colts draft a QB.  Here is one that should be available for the Colts #21 and may be another candidate to trade down and pick up early in the 2nd.  Right now I think most consider him a day 2 prospect because of his team and just over 1 year as a starter but I think he will be a riser with his Senior bowl combine performances/interviews/

First the elephant in the room.  No doubt Jones was a QB on a very talented team... Good oline, one Marvin Harrison type WR, hard noses, versatile running back.  There are a few first rounders on that offensive.  But, after watching a couple of games, Jones did as much to make those guys look good as those guys did to make Jones look good.

Mac Jones - QB - Alabama

Games Watched: 2020 vs Mississippi State and 2020 SEC Title game vs Florida

Positives:

As most scouting reports say, his anticipation and ball placement on throws @less than 20 yards is top notch.  Rarely forces the receiver to adjust to the throw. Moves in the pocket well.  he's not a threat to take off running but he can slide left/right and up in the pocket with ease to buy that extract half a second to a second.  Also seems to move naturally to put himself at a better throwing angle.  Seems tough, will hang in the pocket and make the throw even when he knows he's going to get hit.  Analyzes very quickly, and seemed to make good decisions when to throw and when to take the sack when the play broke down.

Negatives:

The only time I saw him under center was on QB sneaks.  Will take some time to adjust in the NFL.  As well as he moves around in the pocket, he only does that if he sees the rush coming, has no feel for the defenders that are beyond his peripheral vision.  Has good placement on his deep balls but thinks he can throw it farther than he can.  in the two games, when it was 3rd and 8 or longer, only twice did I see him throw the ball past the first down marker.  Usually he was happy to throw short and hope his guy could make the first down.  He was probably coached that way, but I don't like that in a QB, I like the QB to try to pick up the first down.

All in all, I think Jones would look excellent with a Horseshoe on his helmet and I think the Colts would be a playoff team with a rookie Jones at QB and a SB contender after that.  To help dispel the myth that he is a product of his team, he went down to the Senior Bowl and showed the same command of the offense, touch and anticipation with a bunch of guys he didn't play with before.

 

Senior Bowl Report of Each day of Practice

Draft Network Scouting Report

Walter Football Scouting report

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On 2/9/2021 at 9:11 AM, coffeedrinker said:

Ok, next one up.  With Rivers retiring and Brissett not currently under contract the Colts definitely have a need at QB.  According to some comments made by Irsay, it seems like the team is leaning towards signing/trading for a veteran QB but the price may be higher than what Ballard wants to pay.  So, if the Colts draft a QB.  Here is one that should be available for the Colts #21 and may be another candidate to trade down and pick up early in the 2nd.  Right now I think most consider him a day 2 prospect because of his team and just over 1 year as a starter but I think he will be a riser with his Senior bowl combine performances/interviews/

First the elephant in the room.  No doubt Jones was a QB on a very talented team... Good oline, one Marvin Harrison type WR, hard noses, versatile running back.  There are a few first rounders on that offensive.  But, after watching a couple of games, Jones did as much to make those guys look good as those guys did to make Jones look good.

Mac Jones - QB - Alabama

Games Watched: 2020 vs Mississippi State and 2020 SEC Title game vs Florida

Positives:

As most scouting reports say, his anticipation and ball placement on throws @less than 20 yards is top notch.  Rarely forces the receiver to adjust to the throw. Moves in the pocket well.  he's not a threat to take off running but he can slide left/right and up in the pocket with ease to buy that extract half a second to a second.  Also seems to move naturally to put himself at a better throwing angle.  Seems tough, will hang in the pocket and make the throw even when he knows he's going to get hit.  Analyzes very quickly, and seemed to make good decisions when to throw and when to take the sack when the play broke down.

Negatives:

The only time I saw him under center was on QB sneaks.  Will take some time to adjust in the NFL.  As well as he moves around in the pocket, he only does that if he sees the rush coming, has no feel for the defenders that are beyond his peripheral vision.  Has good placement on his deep balls but thinks he can throw it farther than he can.  in the two games, when it was 3rd and 8 or longer, only twice did I see him throw the ball past the first down marker.  Usually he was happy to throw short and hope his guy could make the first down.  He was probably coached that way, but I don't like that in a QB, I like the QB to try to pick up the first down.

All in all, I think Jones would look excellent with a Horseshoe on his helmet and I think the Colts would be a playoff team with a rookie Jones at QB and a SB contender after that.  To help dispel the myth that he is a product of his team, he went down to the Senior Bowl and showed the same command of the offense, touch and anticipation with a bunch of guys he didn't play with before.

 

Senior Bowl Report of Each day of Practice

Draft Network Scouting Report

Walter Football Scouting report

Nice work. I did some watching, and here are my concerns. Most of the TD's I watched were over the top with the defenders being beat by at least 6 feet. That rarely happens in the pros. He also lofts off his back foot a lot, and with that kind of air under the ball, that might not work so well at the next level. He is accurate as advertised, smart, and moves well in the pocket. I don't know that he offers more than Eason at this point, but I will try to dig deeper. 

 

Again, nice work. 

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On 2/1/2021 at 12:39 PM, coffeedrinker said:

I figured I'd start this and add to it as time permits.  A few things about my thoughts on the draft.  I will post players I like, not players I think the Colts will draft.  IT would be cool if they aligned but I also realize that CB and the Colts are looking 5 years in the future not just 2021.  I also realize, the Colts have about 10 times has much information to evaluate a player as I do, so I don't get upset if the Colts do not draft a player I think they should draft.

I see the Colts biggest needs to address this offseason as OT, QB, DE.  I think, based on some comments of Irsay that the Colts will either roll with Eason or sign/trade for a vet.  Between DE and OT, I think OT is a bigger hole to fill.  The Colts could use a committee to replace Houston in 2021 but you cannot take that same approach to OT.  Now obviously drafting someone like Sewell would be ideal but since the Colts are picking on 21, it's not realistic either.  So, a tackle that I like is Liam Eichenberg, OT Notre Dame, 6-6 305lbs.

Here are some links: 

https://www.walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2021leichenberg.php (I know some people don't like Walter Football but I have found them to be one of the more accurate eval sites over the years)

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/liam-eichenberg/rkI1RpTQsZ

My thoughts after watching the Clemson vs Notre dame game

  • I think he could come in and be a day 1 starter
  • Technically he is very sound.  Watching the game, I only saw a couple of times where he let his shoulders get past his feet.  Usually he kept a good base and well balanced
  • Good hand punch.  On running players he did a good job of locking onto the defender and using his body and arms to direct.  On pass protection he did a good job of punching and then bringing his arms back to the ready position to punch again.
  • Keeps his head on a swivel, only once did I see him get surprised by a stunt coming to his area.
  • Works well with his guard.  Did an excellent job of passing off a defender to the guard so he could pick of a stunting lineman or a delayed blitz
  • Struggles against speed.  Does a good job mirroring but does not have the foot quickness to change directions against a speed rusher.  His foot quickness is not poor, but I would rate it as average to above average
  • Seems to have good, functional strength
  • Very long arms and knows how to use them.
  • From reports he has an excellent football IQ

overall there are not a lot of negatives in Liam's game.  On the flip side, there is not a lot of elite in his play either.  But I think, playing next to Nelson, will develop a nasty streak in Eichenberg and he will be very similar to AC, in that you can plug him in at LT and not worry about the position for the next decade or so.  Walter Football has Eichenberg with a 2nd day grade, so some will think #21 is too early for him but I don't think so.  He plays at a crucial position and, IMO can be a day 1 starter, so "reaching" is not out of the question.  Although if the Colts could pull off a trade of 21 and still get in the top of the 2nd round and grab him that would be excellent.

I watched that film the other day as well, seeing pretty much the same thing. Really wanted to highlight his work with the guard; he didn't get caught in any switches. Same in the Alabama game as well. Also in his downside, he really lets people get into his chest. 

I started watching Samuel Cosmi from Texas recently. He is a big, finishes blocks well, and does a good job of getting up the field when needed. Maybe gets a little too "handsy", trying to find penalty numbers on him. 

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Nice stuff Coffee! Liam would benefit from having big-Q next to him.

 

When you have time, check out Dillon Radunz too. If I had to bet right now, I think Cosmi and Radunz are the two most likely at 21. Darrisaw likely long gone. Eichenberg probably next most likely. 


But Radunz was already on a lot of radars probably from mid 3rd up. Had a great Senior bowl and I think is a likely top 45 pick now. Looked smooth, and tougher than you’d expect at his size. 

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11 hours ago, RTTRUTH said:

Nice stuff Coffee! Liam would benefit from having big-Q next to him.

 

When you have time, check out Dillon Radunz too. If I had to bet right now, I think Cosmi and Radunz are the two most likely at 21. Darrisaw likely long gone. Eichenberg probably next most likely. 


But Radunz was already on a lot of radars probably from mid 3rd up. Had a great Senior bowl and I think is a likely top 45 pick now. Looked smooth, and tougher than you’d expect at his size. 

I've watched a little of Radunz, not as much as I would like.  But from what I've read and the little I've seen he is definitely a player I would not mind the Colts drafting.  Personally, I like Eichenberg more (but that may be because I watched a more Eich).  It's also hard to judge their pass blocking because both of their QBs are not oline friendly in the passing game because both were unpredictable with what they were going to do.  (On a side note, from the one game of Radunz that I watched, I also got to see Trey Lance... and I don't know how he is considered a top 5 QB in this draft.  He looked lost and confused in the game I watched.  But that may have been the worst game of his career, and I do reserve the right to claim I was wrong if I watch more film and find I'm wrong. :) 

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