jpaulthe1st Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said: would hate to waste another 1st on a corner 1st round corners last 10 years: 1. DJ Hayden 2. Gareon Conley 3. Damon Arnette Barf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, MrOaktown_56 said: I feel so bad for him. He's been amazing for them. This is gonna cost him millions. Why you can’t be mad at these guys skipping these bowl games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Geezy said: If you look at it, it looks like his knee, it looked like it popped and he grabbed it immediately. When I watched it in real time it looked like the "pop" occurred posteriorly and around his ankle but after rewatching it a few times I would see that it was a pretty clear ACL injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Frankie2Gunz said: I rewatched it. It looked like a classic ACL tear when I saw the replay. Acl is still a terrible injury and will most likely push him into the 2nd round. The talented WR crop is starting to dwindle down. In the draft Williams, Metchie, and London are all coming off of serious lower leg injuries. In free agency Godwin, Gallup, and Chark are all coming off of serious lower leg injuries too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, jpaulthe1st said: That’s two diagnoses from the couch in 4 minutes Dr. Frankie2Gunz I have been in the orthopedic sector for 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: The talented WR crop is starting to dwindle down. In the draft Williams, Metchie, and London are all coming off of serious lower leg injuries. In free agency Godwin, Gallup, and Chark are all coming off of serious lower leg injuries too. Terrible injuries but that will be good for a WR needy team like the Raiders. A combo of Chark and Williams would be a great combo for years to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, jpaulthe1st said: 1st round corners last 10 years: 1. DJ Hayden 2. Gareon Conley 3. Damon Arnette Barf Jaire Alexander, Jalen Ramsey, Marshon Lattimore, Marlon Humphrey, etc were all 1st round picks. If you look at basically any positional group we've drafted early they've sucked, lol. Our only good first round picks in recent memory are Mack, Cooper, Jacobs, and Miller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Humble_Beast said: would hate to waste another 1st on a corner Wouldn’t be a waste if we get a good one. Also CB is one of the most valuable positions in football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, Frankie2Gunz said: Terrible injuries but that will be good for a WR needy team like the Raiders. A combo of Chark and Williams would be a great combo for years to come. The only thing with Williams is that he may miss a good portion of next season. I'd potentially take a risk on one guy coming off of an injury but I wouldn't give Chark a massive deal off of a fractured ankle and draft Williams early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Jraider91 said: Is it just me that isn't hugely enamoured with Bryce Young as an NFL prospect? He’s a very good prospect. He does have very small frame though, I don’t know how he’ll hold up in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geezy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 51 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He's just a freshman this year and has had spotty OL play all season, he has been sacked 35 times and IIRC he is one of the most pressured QB's in the country as well. I think his spotty accuracy at times has a lot to do with the fact that he's constantly throwing on the move/under pressure. I agree that a lot of guys breakout early and then regress but Bryce just won the Heisman has like 50 TD/5 INT and has all of the tools that you look for in a franchise QB in the modern NFL. He has a lot of Russell Wilson/Kyler Murray in his game. I don’t think he’s as dynamic a runner as those two and I don’t think he has the body to be a runner in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankie2Gunz Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: The only thing with Williams is that he may miss a good portion of next season. I'd potentially take a risk on one guy coming off of an injury but I wouldn't give Chark a massive deal off of a fractured ankle and draft Williams early. Chark should bounce back 100 percent from that ankle injury at the start of next season. I don't know with certainty the severity of his injury but I highly doubt it will keep him form bing 100 percent next season. Taking chances on players like Chark and Williams might not pay dividends immediately but I am thinking long term here. Both of those guys have their prime years still to come and getting a 1st round talent like WIlliams in the 2nd round would be a massive steal for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, Frankie2Gunz said: Chark should bounce back 100 percent from that ankle injury at the start of next season. I don't know with certainty the severity of his injury but I highly doubt it will keep him form bing 100 percent next season. Taking chances on players like Chark and Williams might not pay dividends immediately but I am thinking long term here. Both of those guys have their prime years still to come and getting a 1st round talent like WIlliams in the 2nd round would be a massive steal for the next decade. Chark fractured his ankle pretty badly and really hasn't been all that special even when he was healthy. We need WR help now, can't invest major assets into two guys who might be good in 2-3 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, Geezy said: I don’t think he’s as dynamic a runner as those two and I don’t think he has the body to be a runner in the NFL. Russell Wilson didn't really run when he was in college but I agree he's not as dynamic as Kyler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, jpaulthe1st said: 1st round corners last 10 years: 1. DJ Hayden 2. Gareon Conley 3. Damon Arnette Barf 1. DJ Hayden - His heart literally exploded on the field and we took him 12th. 2. Gareon Conley - Was dealing with a major sexual assault allegation and we took him in the 1st. 3. Damon Arnette - Was 24 years old, slow, and had known character issues, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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