Tyronnosaurus Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, NYRaider said: Dallas has been pretty damn bad in the draft for a while outside of the Luka pick. I've been seeing the Lavine to Dallas rumors heating up though. They’re the worst drafting team in the league. The only “hits” they’ve had in the draft the last 15 years or so were: -Josh Howard and Marquis Daniels in the same draft -Jae Crowder I guess but they still dumped him in a trade -Jalen Brunson Luka doesn’t count - as in at the 3rd (5th) pick landing a potential superstar isn’t impressive or indicative of a good drafting team. They took Dennis Smith Jr. in the top 10. 4 years later he’s out of the league. They have to nail their pick this year. You can find a stud at 26. But they’ll likely whiff and waste yet another roster spot and potential long term cornerstone next to Luka. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Tyronnosaurus said: Luka doesn’t count - as in at the 3rd (5th) pick landing a potential superstar isn’t impressive or indicative of a good drafting team. Dallas at least realized what Luka was when teams like Phoenix/Sacramento passed on him and Atlanta preferred Trae Young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Dallas at least realized what Luka was when teams like Phoenix/Sacramento passed on him and Atlanta preferred Trae Young. I remember reading a lot of talk that Luka wanted no part of coming to Sacramento. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Fureys49ers said: I remember reading a lot of talk that Luka wanted no part of coming to Sacramento. Luka has gone on the record saying he was fine with Sacramento. Apparently Vlade Divac had some beef with his dad which influenced their decision to take Bagley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Luka has gone on the record saying he was fine with Sacramento. Apparently Vlade Divac had some beef with his dad which influenced their decision to take Bagley. Never knew that….actual pain with this new understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just now, Fureys49ers said: Never knew that….actual pain with this new understanding. I wonder if you guys will move the 4th pick for a veteran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 Dereon Seabron will probably be one of the better 2nd round guys from the class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: I wonder if you guys will move the 4th pick for a veteran. Seems to be the thought process I keep reading about but who? I’ve been looking into Ivey and Murray and I wouldn’t be upset. If Griffin didn’t have the injury history he’d probably be my clear favorite. Sharpe is too big of a question mark for them to consider I’m guessing. Daniels is intriguing as well. Getting a wing who can score without being too liable on the other end is the ultimate goal, which leans towards Murray for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beekay414 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) This is the best list I've found so far as to who is staying in the draft and going back to school. https://watchstadium.com/stadiums-2022-nba-draft-entry-tracker-05-25-2022/ I know it says 5-25-2022 but it looks updated. Edited June 2, 2022 by beekay414 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Fureys49ers said: Seems to be the thought process I keep reading about but who? I’ve been looking into Ivey and Murray and I wouldn’t be upset. If Griffin didn’t have the injury history he’d probably be my clear favorite. Sharpe is too big of a question mark for them to consider I’m guessing. Daniels is intriguing as well. Getting a wing who can score without being too liable on the other end is the ultimate goal, which leans towards Murray for me. I've seen Jerami Grant mentioned but he's not worth the 4th overall pick, imo. OG Anunoby is apparently available and would be someone that could make sense for you guys. I wonder if the Thunder would consider #4 + Mitchell and Holmes/Harkless as filler for SGA. If you keep the pick I think that Keegan Murray makes the most sense. You guys have drafted so many guards recently and it led to a weirdly constructed roster. Murray/Barnes/Sabonis would give you a ton of size and versatility in the front court. Edited June 2, 2022 by NYRaider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, NYRaider said: I've seen Jerami Grant mentioned but he's not worth the 4th overall pick, imo. OG Anunoby is apparently available and would be someone that could make sense for you guys. I wonder if the Thunder would consider #4 + Mitchell and Holmes/Harkless as filler for SGA. If you keep the pick I think that Keegan Murray makes the most sense. You guys have drafted so many guards recently and it led to a weirdly constructed roster. Murray/Barnes/Sabonis would give you a ton of size and versatility in the front court. That’s my thinking as well with taking Murray. Would give us length, scoring ability and decent defense with them on the floor altogether. Barnes in his last year too I believe, so Murray is an easy transition for replacing his contributions if he walks, or even used as a trade piece come deadline time. Either way we’d hopefully have a more impactful Barnes replacement in Murray and freed up cash with Barnes’ contract off the books. I saw the OG rumors, nothing substantial yet but him or Lavine are really the only two I’d want to move off 4 for. Grant’s not a bad idea but as you said not worth 4 and likely not worth the contract the Kings would be forced into giving him next year. Edited June 2, 2022 by Fureys49ers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fureys49ers said: That’s my thinking as well with taking Murray. Would give us length, scoring ability and decent defense with them on the floor altogether. Barnes in his last year too I believe, so Murray is an easy transition for replacing his contributions if he walks, or even used as a trade piece come deadline time. Either way we’d hopefully have a more impactful Barnes replacement in Murray and freed up cash with Barnes’ contract off the books. I saw the OG rumors, nothing substantial yet but him or Lavigne are really the only two I’d want to move off 4 for. Grant’s not a bad idea but as you said not worth 4 and likely not worth the contract the Kings would be forced into giving him next year. He's also an older prospect that should be ready to contribute from day one. You guys are just in a weird state of limbo as it stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, NYRaider said: He's also an older prospect that should be ready to contribute from day one. You guys are just in a weird state of limbo as it stands. I know the idea of “playoffs now” sounds good, and the entire fan base is ready for it, but selling out for it at all costs would be a very Kings thing to do. Improve the team, get Sabonis and Fox some help through using the 4 or trading it for a true difference maker who’s going to be worth every penny. This organization has been half assed enough, steps in the right direction would be a drastic improvement, don’t need leaps and bounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted June 2, 2022 Author Share Posted June 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Fureys49ers said: I know the idea of “playoffs now” sounds good, and the entire fan base is ready for it, but selling out for it at all costs would be a very Kings thing to do. Improve the team, get Sabonis and Fox some help through using the 4 or trading it for a true difference maker who’s going to be worth every penny. This organization has been half assed enough, steps in the right direction would be a drastic improvement, don’t need leaps and bounds. The Western conference is just so deep and competitive now too, I was surprised that you guys traded Haliburton, seemingly came out of nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fureys49ers Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: The Western conference is just so deep and competitive now too, I was surprised that you guys traded Haliburton, seemingly came out of nowhere. Other than speculation that someone was getting moved after the Mitchell pick I wasn’t aware that it was a real possibility at all until the trade happened. I like Sabonis enough though and his skill set is certainly needed in our front court. Mitchell I thought showed very well so as long as he and Fox keep progressing we’ll be alright. Absolutely need to shock the world and actually hit with this 4 pick though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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