pwny Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonu62882 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 What kind of managing experience does he have? They went to the complete opposite end of the spectrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 55 minutes ago, jonu62882 said: What kind of managing experience does he have? They went to the complete opposite end of the spectrum. He's a great hire honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Not sure why they didn't hire Wathan. Smart guy, "interesting" personality. It'll get the Brian Kenny types exciting but it shouldn't be a great sign that the Dodgers were essentially shopping him. Also he should probably be blackballed for the Francona stuff that Passan reported on a few months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonu62882 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 20 minutes ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: He's a great hire honestly. I hope he's not another Chip Kelly or just because he's young so the players can relate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, NewAge said: Not sure why they didn't hire Wathan. Smart guy, "interesting" personality. It'll get the Brian Kenny types exciting but it shouldn't be a great sign that the Dodgers were essentially shopping him. Also he should probably be blackballed for the Francona stuff that Passan reported on a few months ago. Wathan is still under contract with the phils. So he will be on kaplers staff or manage AAA again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 16 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: Wathan is still under contract with the phils. So he will be on kaplers staff or manage AAA again. Yes but I also think he might be better than Kapler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjapirate Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 1 minute ago, NewAge said: Yes but I also think he might be better than Kapler I think the organization needed some new blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 41 minutes ago, ninjapirate said: I think the organization needed some new blood. The Phillies are presumably going to be active on FAs coming up. I don't know why guys like Harper and Machado would want to play for the guy who spray tans his balls over the guy who is credited in large part for the development of Hoskins and others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker8267 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 45 minutes ago, NewAge said: The Phillies are presumably going to be active on FAs coming up. I don't know why guys like Harper and Machado would want to play for the guy who spray tans his balls over the guy who is credited in large part for the development of Hoskins and others. Do you really think any free agent of consequence is spending more than 3.5 seconds thinking about the managers of the teams he's considering? And if he did, is he docking Kapler points for previously being the director of player development for an organization that's churning out top prospects left and right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, playmaker8267 said: Do you really think any free agent of consequence is spending more than 3.5 seconds thinking about the managers of the teams he's considering? And if he did, is he docking Kapler points for previously being the director of player development for an organization that's churning out top prospects left and right? Who knows but I don't know how well he'll mesh with vets. In related news... http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/phillies-satisfied-that-nick-franconas-accusations-against-gabe-kapler-are-false-20171030.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom cody Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Apparently he's supposed to be one of the top young managers out there, be interesting to see how/if he pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 15 hours ago, NewAge said: Not sure why they didn't hire Wathan. Smart guy, "interesting" personality. It'll get the Brian Kenny types exciting but it shouldn't be a great sign that the Dodgers were essentially shopping him. Also he should probably be blackballed for the Francona stuff that Passan reported on a few months ago. Is that why the media reports of "it came down to him and Roberts" got leaked? I always thought he had a pretty great rep among potential managerial candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewAge Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, ramssuperbowl99 said: Is that why the media reports of "it came down to him and Roberts" got leaked? I always thought he had a pretty great rep among potential managerial candidates. No, the stuff with Francona happened after that. He has a good rep in the sabermetrics community and has been seen as a future manager since 2007. However, given the Francona stuff and general impressions of his personality, it wouldn't be shocking if he struggles a bit with the behind the scenes parts of the job. Should be a very good in-game manager though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramssuperbowl99 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 25 minutes ago, NewAge said: No, the stuff with Francona happened after that. He has a good rep in the sabermetrics community and has been seen as a future manager since 2007. However, given the Francona stuff and general impressions of his personality, it wouldn't be shocking if he struggles a bit with the behind the scenes parts of the job. Should be a very good in-game manager though. So I'm assuming they need to hire a guy who is very personal as the hitting coach/assistant manager then. Not the worst set up if they do it that way intentionally and Kapler knows he'll be a little less hands on in the clubhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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