JetsandI Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 NFL teams with at least potential Shanahan based offense: Jets Vikings Rams 49ers Falcons Packers Dolphins Bears Broncos Bengals Titans Chargers? That is a lot of competition if we look for same upgrade. Plus I believe Jaguars will be aggressive in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted February 12, 2022 Author Share Posted February 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, JetsandI said: Creed Humphrey was taken in 2nd round. He is easily stronger than Linderbaum. LInderbaum did lose some strength battle with IDL but he recovered nicely most of time due to IDL's inability to finish off. Sound not good for 1st round label. We have to wait and see what is his NFL combine result. And in hindsight there’s nearly the whole NFL regretting not drafting Humphrey who was one of the best Cs in the game as a rookie. Classic… where teams overthink things and a guy slips. Guy had no reason not being a 1st rounder 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Bobby816 said: And in hindsight there’s nearly the whole NFL regretting not drafting Humphrey who was one of the best Cs in the game as a rookie. Classic… where teams overthink things and a guy slips. Guy had no reason not being a 1st rounder I wanted Creed in round 2 last year. But with McGovern on the roster JD wasn’t drafting an OC. Which is why I doubt we draft an OC high in the draft this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsandI Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Bobby816 said: And in hindsight there’s nearly the whole NFL regretting not drafting Humphrey who was one of the best Cs in the game as a rookie. Classic… where teams overthink things and a guy slips. Guy had no reason not being a 1st rounder NFL doesn't care if they have elite center as long as he can click together just fine. However, Humphrey was taken at very end of 2nd round as 3rd center off the board. Landon Dickerson played G for obvious reason. Josh Myers was taken right before Humphrey. I don't know if Packers were idiotic for this happen but Packers have history of developing kids well anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 8 hours ago, xrade said: Legit question, has Linderbaum gone against any top DT at Iowa? Not sure but that’s not exactly something to hold against him if he didn’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 10 hours ago, JetsandI said: NFL teams with at least potential Shanahan based offense: Jets Vikings Rams 49ers Falcons Packers Dolphins Bears Broncos Bengals Titans Chargers? That is a lot of competition if we look for same upgrade. Plus I believe Jaguars will be aggressive in FA. I can't lie, I'm a little nervous because of this and how the 49ers defense looked without Saleh. I'm hoping this isn't like a Patriots/BB situation where he makes all his coordinators look good and they suck as HCs. The good news is that Saleh flashed at times during the season against some of the better teams in league, so he can be the one. He has to prove it this season and after Lafluer leaves in the year or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 41 minutes ago, rickyt31 said: I can't lie, I'm a little nervous because of this and how the 49ers defense looked without Saleh. You can’t expect Ferrari like performance from Yugo like parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 13 hours ago, JetsandI said: NFL teams with at least potential Shanahan based offense: Jets Vikings Rams 49ers Falcons Packers Dolphins Bears Broncos Bengals Titans Chargers? That is a lot of competition if we look for same upgrade. Plus I believe Jaguars will be aggressive in FA. Not the Chargers Add the Seahawks and Browns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 11 hours ago, xrade said: I wanted Creed in round 2 last year. But with McGovern on the roster JD wasn’t drafting an OC. Which is why I doubt we draft an OC high in the draft this year. McGovern is in the last year of his deal. The draft is just as much about future needs as it is immediate needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingOfNewYork Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Long term pieces we currently have(2+ years left on contract) now I’m not saying these are Core pieces due to performance but they’re at least guys we have under contract mostly on their rookie wages. QB- Wilson RB- Carter WR- Davis, Moore, Mims TE- N/A OT- Becton OG- AVT C- N/A EDGE- Lawson, JFM DT- Marshall LB- Hamsah, Sherwood CB- Hall, MC2, Echols, Dunn, Pinnock, S- Davis K- N/A P- Mann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 3 hours ago, KingOfNewYork said: McGovern is in the last year of his deal. The draft is just as much about future needs as it is immediate needs. For a team without all the holes we have - yes. We need starters, not future replacements. Not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, xrade said: For a team without all the holes we have - yes. We need starters, not future replacements. Not yet. KC could’ve easily drafted Creed and moved McG to RG. But I mean we drafted Elijah Moore instead… so it’s hard to complain about the direction we went. I’m hoping actually him and Wilson playing together this season will really be the start of something special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xrade Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Bobby816 said: KC could’ve easily drafted Creed and moved McG to RG. But I mean we drafted Elijah Moore instead… so it’s hard to complain about the direction we went. I’m hoping actually him and Wilson playing together this season will really be the start of something special. I was responding to KONY about drafting future replacements high in the draft. But to your point, I am happy with our 2021 draft class. No complaints except drafting Pinnock and Sherwood so high, but that is nitpicking. As for McGovern, JD likes him at OC. Perhaps he could move to OG but I just think JD likes him where he is at. Drafting an OC in rounds 1 or 2 this year as a future replacement is just a waste of resources for this team. Remember, I am going on the assumption we will fill RG with a decent FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby816 Posted February 13, 2022 Author Share Posted February 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, xrade said: I was responding to KONY about drafting future replacements high in the draft. But to your point, I am happy with our 2021 draft class. No complaints except drafting Pinnock and Sherwood so high, but that is nitpicking. As for McGovern, JD likes him at OC. Perhaps he could move to OG but I just think JD likes him where he is at. Drafting an OC in rounds 1 or 2 this year as a future replacement is just a waste of resources for this team. Remember, I am going on the assumption we will fill RG with a decent FA. I kinda hear what your saying but don’t fully agree with it. I mean it very possibly can be where we love Linderbaum and take him at 10 and move McGovern to RG. Drafting Linderbaum is a move for now. I prefer to draft a guy like Lindstrom in like Round 4 who can be a backup C and G for us. One injury and he might be starting. So it’s a move for now and the future. Typically your not drafting starters in that area. If you are “like we sometimes are” that means your roster is poor. Normally it takes a year or 2 of development with guys in round 4 and later. It also has to do with how old is the starter in front of the guy. Take OT for example. I love the idea of drafting Neal or Ikem at 4. They can start at RG as rookies and be moved to OT. Fant is nearly 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickyt31 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I don't think anyone we draft in the top-3 rounds will have to wait 2 years to play. No one on our roster is that good. The only position we may draft that would wait a year is someone who can only play OT. That's based on if they can beat Fant. Everyone else will likely see the field by the end of the year at the latest. I'm not really interested in going IOL in the first round, but if they turn out to be a top-5 talent in the league, I will love the pick. I just want someone that will be in the discussion for rookie of the year and a chance to be a real factor. I have my favorites, but at the end of the day. I just want great players that make a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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