TL-TwoWinsAway Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Malfatron said: I can do the math Its coming up with the importance of the various factors as it pertains to predicting future wins. Turnovers to me (mostly fumbles) have too much of a luck element because fumble recoveries are random. INTs are more skill, and i would factor INTs and forced fumbles together maybe with forced fumbles possibly counting for half the value of an INT Makes tons of sense. I tend to think that, in a general sense, yards should hold more weight than points, as a team that can consistently gain yards (and stop the opposing team from gaining yards) is likely a good team. Points can come at odd and inconsistent times. (Example: we went for it late against the Predators, down by 8, on the Predators' 20 or so yard line. Had we settled for 3, it would look better in the metric, but going for it was the right decision.) There are likely tons of counterpoints to the above that would render it obsolete. Still, that's how I think a solid metric would be weighed: yards, points, INTs, FFs, 3rd down %. Edited April 8, 2022 by TL-TwoWinsAway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Heres a potential formula Net yards + 10 * net points + 40 *net int + 20* net forced fumble + 50 *net 3rd down conversion pct My rationale. All of these would be the same value Getting 200 yards more than opp Getting 20 points more than opp Getting 5 more int than opp Getting 10 more ff than opp Getting 4% higher 3rd down pct than opp 3rd down conv are usually between 39-43 percent except for outliers that can be punished or rewarded. Most teams wouldnt see that much increase in score even though 50 is the multiplier FF and INTs have a degree of luck, so i think they should be worth less like they are above. They are just the gravy to the score, when the meat is yards and points Edited April 8, 2022 by Malfatron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 I loled at this stat Little rock: Fumbled: 7 (Per Game: 0.88) Fumbles Lost: 0 (Per Game: 0.00) Egypt: Fumbled: 7 (Per Game: 0.88) Fumbles Lost: 7 (Per Game: 0.88) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Malfatron said: Heres a potential formula Net yards + 10 * net points + 40 *net int + 20* net forced fumble + 50 *net 3rd down conversion pct Well, Im gonna use this formula to see what we got this week Its the halfway point, lets do something more special than punter stuff Edited April 8, 2022 by Malfatron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucsfan333 Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Its the halfway point, lets do something more special than punter stuff That's for birthdays and anniversaries. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 Formula Net yards + 10 * net points + 40 *net int + 20* net forced fumble + 50 *net 3rd down conversion pct Power rankings 1. Rio de Janeiro Pirates (6-2) - 1474 2. Richmond Flying Squirrels (6-2) - 1333 3. Freiburg Venom (6-2) - 813 4. Hanoi Viet Kongs (4-4) - 761.5 5. Indianapolis Predators (5-3) - 519.5 6. New Zealand Blobfish (4-3-1) - 436 7. Norway Knights (5-3) - 423 8. Nassau Sea Wolves (3-5) - 224.5 9. Egypt Starfalls (3-5) - 147.5 10. Scranton Papermakers (5-3) - 38 11. Cox's Freedom Fighters (2-6) - (-35.5) 12. Little Rock Uni Royals (7-1) - (-67) 13. Tacoma Thunder (4-4) - (-254.5) 14. Burl Sock Puppets (3-4-1) - (-337) 15. Reykjavík Direwolves (5-3) - (-572) 16. Phoenix Rattlers (3-5) - (-724) 17. Pittston Waste Walruses (4-4) - (-894) 18. Anchorage Moose (1-7) - (-915) 19. Lanc Fighting Amish (2-6) - (-1019.5) 20. Ant Penguin Poppers (1-7) - (-1267) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) Lets see how that new metric does with W9 games Edited April 8, 2022 by Malfatron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 WEEK 9 (Sun, April 10)Freiburg Venom @ Antarctica Penguin PoppersLittle Rock Uni Royals @ Anchorage Moose Nassau Sea Wolves @ New Zealand BlobfishHanoi Viet Kongs @ Reykjavík DirewolvesRio de Janeiro Pirates @ Lancaster Fighting Amish Tacoma Thunder @ Cox's Bazar Freedom Fighters Egypt Starfalls @ Indianapolis PredatorsScranton Papermakers @ Pittston Waste Walruses Burlington Sock Puppets @ Norway Knights Phoenix Rattlers @ Richmond Flying Squirrels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, bucsfan333 said: That's for birthdays and anniversaries. I giggled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Formula Net yards + 10 * net points + 40 *net int + 20* net forced fumble + 50 *net 3rd down conversion pct Power rankings 1. Rio de Janeiro Pirates (6-2) - 1474 2. Richmond Flying Squirrels (6-2) - 1333 3. Freiburg Venom (6-2) - 813 4. Hanoi Viet Kongs (4-4) - 761.5 5. Indianapolis Predators (5-3) - 519.5 6. New Zealand Blobfish (4-3-1) - 436 7. Norway Knights (5-3) - 423 8. Nassau Sea Wolves (3-5) - 224.5 9. Egypt Starfalls (3-5) - 147.5 10. Scranton Papermakers (5-3) - 38 11. Cox's Freedom Fighters (2-6) - (-35.5) 12. Little Rock Uni Royals (7-1) - (-67) 13. Tacoma Thunder (4-4) - (-254.5) 14. Burl Sock Puppets (3-4-1) - (-337) 15. Reykjavík Direwolves (5-3) - (-572) 16. Phoenix Rattlers (3-5) - (-724) 17. Pittston Waste Walruses (4-4) - (-894) 18. Anchorage Moose (1-7) - (-915) 19. Lanc Fighting Amish (2-6) - (-1019.5) 20. Ant Penguin Poppers (1-7) - (-1267) Very interesting. The team with the top record sits at 12th, while the three teams with 2 or fewer wins are all at the bottom. Lots to digest there. It'll be interesting to see how it performs this week. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, TL-TwoWinsAway said: Very interesting. The team with the top record sits at 12th, while the three teams with 2 or fewer wins are all at the bottom. Lots to digest there. It'll be interesting to see how it performs this week. If these metrics serve as a good barometer, heres the predicted final playoff bracket (just taking the winners being the higher ranking) (Obviously games are going to swing one way or another, but it might be a good barometer) It primarily tells me to not sleep on those Kongs Cheezy: 1. Rio de Janeiro Pirates 14-2 2. Little Rock Uni Royals 12-4 3. Norway Knights 11-5 4.Hanoi Viet Kongs 10-6 Salsa 1 Richmond Flying Squirrels 14-2 2 Freiburg Venom 13-3 3 Indianapolis Predators 11-5 4 Scranton Papermakers 10-6 Edited April 8, 2022 by Malfatron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TL-TwoWinsAway Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Malfatron said: Cheezy: 1. Rio de Janeiro Pirates 14-2 2. Little Rock Uni Royals 12-4 3. Norway Knights 11-5 4.Hanoi Viet Kongs 10-6 Salsa 1 Richmond Flying Squirrels 14-2 2 Freiburg Venom 13-3 3 Indianapolis Predators 11-5 4 Scranton Papermakers 10-6 Might be the best metric yet. None of that would surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 11 hours ago, Malfatron said: Formula Net yards + 10 * net points + 40 *net int + 20* net forced fumble + 50 *net 3rd down conversion pct Power rankings 1. Rio de Janeiro Pirates (6-2) - 1474 2. Richmond Flying Squirrels (6-2) - 1333 3. Freiburg Venom (6-2) - 813 4. Hanoi Viet Kongs (4-4) - 761.5 5. Indianapolis Predators (5-3) - 519.5 6. New Zealand Blobfish (4-3-1) - 436 7. Norway Knights (5-3) - 423 8. Nassau Sea Wolves (3-5) - 224.5 9. Egypt Starfalls (3-5) - 147.5 10. Scranton Papermakers (5-3) - 38 11. Cox's Freedom Fighters (2-6) - (-35.5) 12. Little Rock Uni Royals (7-1) - (-67) 13. Tacoma Thunder (4-4) - (-254.5) 14. Burl Sock Puppets (3-4-1) - (-337) 15. Reykjavík Direwolves (5-3) - (-572) 16. Phoenix Rattlers (3-5) - (-724) 17. Pittston Waste Walruses (4-4) - (-894) 18. Anchorage Moose (1-7) - (-915) 19. Lanc Fighting Amish (2-6) - (-1019.5) 20. Ant Penguin Poppers (1-7) - (-1267) Based on my math I’d have 2116.5? Edited April 8, 2022 by Glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 -205 + 10 * 32 (=320) + 40 * 0(=0) + 20* 4(or7)(=80/140) + 50 * 46.43(=2321.5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malfatron Posted April 8, 2022 Share Posted April 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Glen said: 50 * 46.43 Net 3rd down conversions you need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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