NYRaider Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/4/2022 at 10:35 AM, brownie man said: I’d love a Lions fan’s opinion on this Yo I just had a thought what if in a trade to Detroit the browns picked up all of Bakers contract and traded him for pick 32? I really think that could potentially make sense. Baker gets back with Dorsey, and they can have him come in and compete with Goff but not have to pay him. We take a L on the contract but we also get a first rounder back. If they don’t go QB at two I’d definitely take Baker over the QBs that’ll be left. And they don’t have to pay him. Is this an unreasonable thought? The Lions have to pay Goff this year although they can get out of the deal with $10M/$5M in dead cap over the next two years. The biggest issue with acquiring Baker is that you either have to extend him or franchise tag him after next season. There's absolutely zero chance that any team is giving up a first round pick for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, NYRaider said: The Lions have to pay Goff this year although they can get out of the deal with $10M/$5M in dead cap over the next two years. The biggest issue with acquiring Baker is that you either have to extend him or franchise tag him after next season. There's absolutely zero chance that any team is giving up a first round pick for him. Excellent post though I do not know that there is zero chance. Point 2 your the first to bring this up Is Mayfield camp bring up that he is undefeated against Burrows now tell me that there is not 15 other teams in the afc that would like to utter that line. Point 3 Mayfield has 135.00 rating against the best team in the afc. Nobody wants to trade for Mayfield because they want to scalp the Browns period. He drove up every owner operating cost costs by 20 percent making a above quarterback the highest paid qb. If you are Lamar due ask for 350 million Guaranteed. How about Burrows due you ask 600 million because you beat the the Deshaun Browns twice in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWil23 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Mike, go easy on them. They don't know you like we Browns forum mates do. Please spare them. They don't know any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 hour ago, mtmmike said: Excellent post though I do not know that there is zero chance. Point 2 your the first to bring this up Is Mayfield camp bring up that he is undefeated against Burrows now tell me that there is not 15 other teams in the afc that would like to utter that line. Point 3 Mayfield has 135.00 rating against the best team in the afc. Nobody wants to trade for Mayfield because they want to scalp the Browns period. He drove up every owner operating cost costs by 20 percent making a above quarterback the highest paid qb. If you are Lamar due ask for 350 million Guaranteed. How about Burrows due you ask 600 million because you beat the the Deshaun Browns twice in 2022. The Browns lost all of their leverage when they made the Watson deal, teams know that they're either going to trade him for pennies on the dollar or release him. I just don't see why the Lions would give up a 1st round pick that they could potentially use on a QB that would have a 4-5 year cost controlled contract for a potential 1 year rental of Baker Mayfield. Baker has never passed for 4,000+ yards, never thrown for 30+ TD, and has had 1 winning season in 4 years as a starter with a good supporting cast around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, NYRaider said: The Browns lost all of their leverage when they made the Watson deal, teams know that they're either going to trade him for pennies on the dollar or release him. I just don't see why the Lions would give up a 1st round pick that they could potentially use on a QB that would have a 4-5 year cost controlled contract for a potential 1 year rental of Baker Mayfield. Baker has never passed for 4,000+ yards, never thrown for 30+ TD, and has had 1 winning season in 4 years as a starter with a good supporting cast around him. Excellent post To illustrate the Browns payed a qb 250 mill That averages 7.5 wins a year with 1 playoff win plus gave up 4 number 1 picks. Edited April 7, 2022 by mtmmike Stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Excellent post To illustrate the Browns a qb 250 mill That averages 7.5 wins a year with 1 playoff win plus gave up 4 number 1 picks. Stafford hadn't really won a ton in Detroit, why'd the Rams value him so highly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Stafford hadn't really won a ton in Detroit, why'd the Rams value him so highly? Did you predict la to win it all last year at this time? The point on the subject is that we are all wrong . If Mayfield is so bad how come nobody will say Deshaun will win 1 more game than Mayfield best year . By your context virtually everybody could take this team to 13 wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Did you predict la to win it all last year at this time? The point on the subject is that we are all wrong . If Mayfield is so bad how come nobody will say Deshaun will win 1 more game than Mayfield best year . By your context virtually everybody could take this team to 13 wins. Wins/Losses are the only statistic to judge a QB on? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wins/Losses are the only statistic to judge a QB on? Just being on the common ground with everyone else they say Mayfield is responsible for the wins and losses with The coach with the worst winning percentage Even during those years Mayfield beat Allen and deshaun by a huge margin And they both went to teams already Close to the playoffs. Besides why don't you say the Browns are going to win 13 games this year if Deshaun is the answer . I'll tell you why deshaun will get beat by Burrows,lamar,and Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, NYRaider said: Wins/Losses are the only statistic to judge a QB on? Wins aren’t a QB stat. Standing on the table for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 2 hours ago, MWil23 said: Mike, go easy on them. They don't know you like we Browns forum mates do. Please spare them. They don't know any better. Got it a civilized question you If you are new York giants who are suppose To draft Cross offensive tackle who helps your team more Mayfield or Cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 50 minutes ago, ET80 said: Wins aren’t a QB stat. Standing on the table for this. Nice Let's get back to football New York giants trade there first overall pick for Mayfield what helps them the most Cross lt or Mayfield If you are Matt ruhle who helps you more this year Pickett or Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, mtmmike said: New York giants trade there first overall pick for Mayfield what helps them the most Cross lt or Mayfield Um… legitimately don’t know what you’re saying here. But, I’d go with Danny Jones over Mayfield because of cap hit. 18 minutes ago, mtmmike said: If you are Matt ruhle who helps you more this year Pickett or Mayfield 100% Kenny Pickett. No question whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 31 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Got it a civilized question you If you are new York giants who are suppose To draft Cross offensive tackle who helps your team more Mayfield or Cross Giants are going DB, because there is more to football than QB and OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 1 minute ago, ET80 said: Um… legitimately don’t know what you’re saying here. But, I’d go with Danny Jones over Mayfield because of cap hit. 100% Kenny Pickett. No question whatsoever. Ok Daniel Jones wins more games then Mayfield Ok Pickett wins more games then Mayfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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