NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, ET80 said: Yep. I don't know what life choices were made to get us into this situation, but here we are. Goff had 4,600 yards/32 TD on a 13-3, Super Bowl team and the Rams recognized that they had to move on to a guy that only had 3,700 yards/21 TD on a 5 win team that same year, lol. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Goff had 4,600 yards/32 TD on a 13-3, Super Bowl team and the Rams recognized that they had to move on to a guy that only had 3,700 yards/21 TD on a 5 win team that same year, lol. Well, at least the winning percentage is... ...welp, nevermind. Goff had a better winning percentage. Glad we talked this one out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, ET80 said: No, you didn't. I answered for you, so you don't have to worry. Because... Wins aren't a QB stat. Because Watson has played in more playoff games. Watson has lossed more playoff games period. Point how about all the games He has lost to the Bengals,Steelers,and Baltimore In the kc game 1 of the touchdowns was a special teams td so the offense put up 24 points in the first half . So in his losses he has averaged 19 points A game while Mayfield has averaged 32 and put up 1 of the greatest games ever. Weak arguments keep arguing he is Keep making excuses what is it like To hang your hat on a qb that is below average in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, ET80 said: Well, at least the winning percentage is... ...welp, nevermind. Goff had a better winning percentage. Glad we talked this one out. It might be somewhat logical if Baker was just a winner throughout his career but the Browns had one winning season in four years with him starting and like 8/11 wins came against teams with losing records, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Soggust said: ?? Deshaun put up 5,267 yards in 2020 (4823/444 pass/rush) Staffords best year ('11) he put up 5,116 (5038/78). Your right I am wrong I was talking about passing yards 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Watson has lossed more playoff games period. Point how about all the games He has lost to the Bengals,Steelers,and Baltimore In the kc game 1 of the touchdowns was a special teams td so the offense put up 24 points in the first half . So in his losses he has averaged 19 points A game while Mayfield has averaged 32 and put up 1 of the greatest games ever. Weak arguments keep arguing he is Keep making excuses what is it like To hang your hat on a qb that is below average in the playoffs. Is your point that Watson chokes under the bright lights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Watson has lossed more playoff games period. Point how about all the games He has lost to the Bengals,Steelers,and Baltimore In the kc game 1 of the touchdowns was a special teams td so the offense put up 24 points in the first half . So in his losses he has averaged 19 points A game while Mayfield has averaged 32 and put up 1 of the greatest games ever. Weak arguments keep arguing he is Keep making excuses what is it like To hang your hat on a qb that is below average in the playoffs. Matt Stafford had 3 TD/4 INT in 3 playoff games with Detroit, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, NYRaider said: like 8/11 wins came against teams with losing records Thats literally true for all teams/QBs. All of them rack up wins against losers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Matts4313 said: Thats literally true for all teams/QBs. All of them rack up wins against losers. Baker usually loses those games though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtmmike Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, ET80 said: 388 yards, 2 TDs is stinking up? Yes we all remember him being shown up By Mahomes. How many points did he lose buy And do not say points don't matter Another way of putting it How Many did Deshaun lose by Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matts4313 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, NYRaider said: Baker usually loses those games though. Theres like 4-5 QBs that have winning records against winning teams, and a couple of them are due to small sample size. Stafford was ~82% losing against winning teams before this season. (because wins are not a QB stat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, mtmmike said: Watson has lossed more playoff games period. So has Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, Patrick Mahomes... When you play more games, you tend to lose more games. Also - Wins aren't a QB stat. 7 minutes ago, mtmmike said: He has lost to the Bengals,Steelers,and Baltimore So has Baker, last I checked. He's lost more than Watson to these teams. That's not an indictment against Baker, it tells us he's played more against these teams. Also - Wins aren't a QB stat. 7 minutes ago, mtmmike said: the kc game 1 of the touchdowns was a special teams td so the offense put up 24 points in the first half . Yeah, and KC put up 51 points in threw quarters. How many of those points came with Watson on the field again? Zero. Reminder - Wins aren't a QB stat. 8 minutes ago, mtmmike said: To hang your hat on a qb that is below average in the playoffs. The irony in this statement is beautiful. In closing - Wins aren't a QB stat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYRaider Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, Matts4313 said: Theres like 4-5 QBs that have winning records against winning teams, and a couple of them are due to small sample size. Stafford was ~82% losing against winning teams before this season. (because wins are not a QB stat) I understand that, lol. I am just amazed at this whole discussion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, mtmmike said: How many points did he lose buy How many points did he give up? Was he trying to cover Travis Kelce or Tyreek Hill? No... so why does this matter? You do understand the concept of a defense, correct? Watson doesn't play it - in fact, no QB does. So there isn't much a QB can do to stop another QB from racking up numbers. DK you need me to draw you a picture in crayon or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ET80 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Matts4313 said: Is your point that Watson chokes under the bright lights? He doesn't have a point, Matts. He's just rambling now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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