Tugboat Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 On 3/22/2022 at 5:33 PM, SteelKing728 said: Isn't he a 4-3 OLB? Not much of an Edge. He's an "edge" guy. Just in the form of a 3-4 OLB who is more of a versatile and "contain" sort of guy. If you scheme up the pressures, he'll get some though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 6:19 AM, Tugboat said: He's an "edge" guy. Just in the form of a 3-4 OLB who is more of a versatile and "contain" sort of guy. If you scheme up the pressures, he'll get some though. That's what Dean Pees does. He schemes up a lot of pressure looks. I think Carter might be better in Atlanta than he was in NY. I'd love to see him come in, ball out for like 8 sacks and a ton of good run defense and be the guy who rotates with the new draft pick til the new draft pick is ready to be the starter. Ade Ogundeji seems to be replacing Stephen Means in the plans this year and that should be an upgrade. Would love to see the Falcons bring in a guy like Clowney to be the primary pass rush guy. I'm ok if the Falcons have 4 guys with 6-8 sacks at the edge positions in a rotation vs. just 1 guy with 12+. I think a pass rush is more formidable that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKillerNacho Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I was high on this kid coming out and thought he'd be a steal where he was selected. Didn't seem to do so much in New York though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloxygenil Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 7 hours ago, scar988 said: That's what Dean Pees does. He schemes up a lot of pressure looks. I think Carter might be better in Atlanta than he was in NY. I'd love to see him come in, ball out for like 8 sacks and a ton of good run defense and be the guy who rotates with the new draft pick til the new draft pick is ready to be the starter. Ade Ogundeji seems to be replacing Stephen Means in the plans this year and that should be an upgrade. Would love to see the Falcons bring in a guy like Clowney to be the primary pass rush guy. I'm ok if the Falcons have 4 guys with 6-8 sacks at the edge positions in a rotation vs. just 1 guy with 12+. I think a pass rush is more formidable that way. Heck, I would love if our pass rush had 1-2 guys with 2-3 sacks, it would be better than anything we had last year 😭 I joke to keep from crying, but for real 4 guys with 6 sacks is a pipe dream for the Falcons. I would love love love to see that though. Maybe one day see 2 guys with 8+ and 2 guys with 5+ that'd be amazing too. I miss Coleman, Abe and Kerney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 12 hours ago, iloxygenil said: Heck, I would love if our pass rush had 1-2 guys with 2-3 sacks, it would be better than anything we had last year 😭 I joke to keep from crying, but for real 4 guys with 6 sacks is a pipe dream for the Falcons. I would love love love to see that though. Maybe one day see 2 guys with 8+ and 2 guys with 5+ that'd be amazing too. I miss Coleman, Abe and Kerney. Well, I think Ogundeji could be a 5-7 sack guy. Carter seems the same. Maybe bring in Clowney on a 3 year deal and a high pick to be the big pass rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloxygenil Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 1 hour ago, scar988 said: Well, I think Ogundeji could be a 5-7 sack guy. Carter seems the same. Maybe bring in Clowney on a 3 year deal and a high pick to be the big pass rushers. I feel like AO is a 0-2 guy. I was not impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scar988 Posted March 27, 2022 Share Posted March 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, iloxygenil said: I feel like AO is a 0-2 guy. I was not impressed. As a rookie, he got a sack. And he played good edge defense. And then teams started chipping him because he was the only competent pass rusher. Let’s see what he looks like with actual talent across from him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugboat Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 On 3/26/2022 at 1:41 PM, scar988 said: That's what Dean Pees does. He schemes up a lot of pressure looks. I think Carter might be better in Atlanta than he was in NY. I'd love to see him come in, ball out for like 8 sacks and a ton of good run defense and be the guy who rotates with the new draft pick til the new draft pick is ready to be the starter. Ade Ogundeji seems to be replacing Stephen Means in the plans this year and that should be an upgrade. Would love to see the Falcons bring in a guy like Clowney to be the primary pass rush guy. I'm ok if the Falcons have 4 guys with 6-8 sacks at the edge positions in a rotation vs. just 1 guy with 12+. I think a pass rush is more formidable that way. I mean, 8 sacks sounds outside the realm of realistic possibility. "Scheme up" guys don't tend to encroach on that near double-digit sack territory. Occasionally it happens in magic situations, but i wouldn't count on it. But maybe 6 sacks if schemed up right, and with the right surrounding personnel? That's not outside the realm of possibility. That doesn't seem entirely unrealistic to me. I think that has to be the approach though. If you don't have the bona fide studs who can win 1v1 consistently, you have to sort of bank on a collection of guys doing a group effort. With half a dozen sacks each, to generate that pressure. The problem with that...is that it's not always consistent pressure. It might generate some results on paper, but it doesn't always create the sort of consistent pressure that really makes an opposing offense sweat and move things off schedule. That's the weakness of the sort of "schemed up pressures" concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloxygenil Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 7 hours ago, scar988 said: As a rookie, he got a sack. And he played good edge defense. And then teams started chipping him because he was the only competent pass rusher. Let’s see what he looks like with actual talent across from him. Pretty sure Jamaal Anderson got a sack as a rookie too... so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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