Madmike90 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, WindyCity said: Can we please hire someone with a personality. I don't even think it is about personality...I think it's about perception...retreads always come with an air of "what will be different?" about them...he failed in two years in Cleveland (yes most do) but what is he going to bring now that he didn't bring there? Because as I said before I never see him being more than a 7-9...8-8...9-7 type of HC who will keep us competitive and might get us to the playoffs as a one and done every now and then...is that enough? Personally no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudderfudder77 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, G08 said: Staff-wise... don't think it would be any worse than what Shanahan put together in San Fran. McVay hasn't been in the league long and was fine. Shanahan and McVay are NFL legacies who had a built in network not available to most others. I think their situations were a little different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mudderfudder77 said: Shanahan and McVay are NFL legacies who had a built in network not available to most others. I think their situations were a little different. Have you looked at Shanahan's staff in San Fran? It's dog****. Wade Phillips was a tremendous get for McVay, but Matt LaFleur was not wanted by Atlanta when McVay went calling for him. I'm just saying, I don't think youth in the league/contacts is going to be as big of an issue as some are making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IotaNet Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 42 minutes ago, G08 said: Have you looked at Shanahan's staff in San Fran? It's dog****. Wade Phillips was a tremendous get for McVay, but Matt LaFleur was not wanted by Atlanta when McVay went calling for him. I'm just saying, I don't think youth in the league/contacts is going to be as big of an issue as some are making it out to be. I agree. If for no other reason than (like the rest of the world) all these guys are far more connected than ever and I would surmise that the younger guys in particular are very good at creating and building networks. And the older guys know (or can quickly find out) who the hot young bucks are and who they might want to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, IotaNet said: I agree. If for no other reason than (like the rest of the world) all these guys are far more connected than ever and I would surmise that the younger guys in particular are very good at creating and building networks. And the older guys know (or can quickly find out) who the hot young bucks are and who they might want to work with. Not to mention, these people WANT jobs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, WindyCity said: Can we please hire someone with a personality. If I were in New England I would of thought the same thing when they hired Bill Bellick. "This guy failed in Cleveland and then he bailed on the Jets job to coach us?" "He's got zero personality and looks like a schlub." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nads786 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 Steelers getting Mike Tomlin- "We have an experienced guy in Ken Winesthunt and the next coach of the Steelers is who? a defensive coordinator from Minnesota?" "Never heard of him." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 hour ago, G08 said: That's the rub, though. Make him an OC this year and he's gone a year or two years later, most likely. Staff-wise... don't think it would be any worse than what Shanahan put together in San Fran. McVay hasn't been in the league long and was fine. Here's a staff I could put together for Flip right now: HC - John DeFilippo OC - Greg Olson (if that doesn't work, Greg Knapp) QB - Todd Downing DC - Vic Fangio (if that doesn't work, Mike Pettine) DB - Ed Donatell ST - Who cares Greg Olson is going to be Gruden's OC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 As for an OC... what do you think of the name Greg Knapp? He's been around the league, worked under the following offensive minds (all WCO, I believe): Steve Mariucci Gary Kubiak Marc Trestman (vomits) Adam Gase 52 years old, 21 years in the league, was not retained once Vance Joseph was hired so he's twiddling his thumbs. I don't need him calling plays, BUT these two have a history together and DeFilippo cut his teeth under Knapp's scheme. Knapp has also worked with the following QBs: Steve Young Jeff Garcia Michael Vick Matt Schaub Josh McCown Jamarcus Russell (vomits) Matt Hasselbeck Peyton Manning Trevor Siemian HC - John DeFilippo OC - Greg Knapp QB - who cares DC - Fangio, Pettine DB - Ed Donatell (no reason whatsoever to let him leave) ST - who cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, G08 said: HC - John DeFilippo OC - Greg Knapp QB - who cares DC - Fangio, Pettine DB - Ed Donatell (no reason whatsoever to let him leave) ST - who cares QB, ST - you probably should care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, IronMike84 said: QB, ST - you probably should care. I don't. Either does San Francisco: Rich Scangarello is their QB coach, spent the previous season at Wagner College. Their ST coach? Our very own Richard Hightower, special teams assistant last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, G08 said: I don't. Either does San Francisco: Rich Scangarello is their QB coach, spent the previous season at Wagner College. Their ST coach? Our very own Richard Hightower, special teams assistant last season. Just because you’ve never heard of those guys doesn’t mean Kyle Shanahan didn’t put any thought into hiring them. Good coaches, leaders, and people care about every last detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, IronMike84 said: Just because you’ve never heard of those guys doesn’t mean Kyle Shanahan didn’t put any thought into hiring them. Good coaches, leaders, and people care about every last detail. Ah. Ok. Wagner College churns out elite NFL coaches, man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronMike84 Posted January 5, 2018 Share Posted January 5, 2018 1 minute ago, G08 said: Ah. Ok. Wagner College churns out elite NFL coaches, man. So by that logic, every NFL team should just draft players from Alabama and they’ll be set. Easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G08 Posted January 5, 2018 Author Share Posted January 5, 2018 Just now, IronMike84 said: So by that logic, every NFL team should just draft players from Alabama and they’ll be set. Easy. I was talking about the QB coach that was taken from there, but if that's the next step in your thought process then enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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